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Nov 4 2023 10:19am
Quote (fender @ Nov 4 2023 04:04pm)
nah i'm out as well, i've had my share of absolutely disgusting people defending the murdering of children with their flimsy excuses and mental gymnastics, there's only so much of it i can stand for a day...

that region will never see peace with radicals like that, who don't even realise how they are the oppressors, how they are the people who have been inflicting massive injustices on millions of innocent people for decades, stealing their land and resources, keeping them prisoners, destroying their homes and future, and then playing victim when some of the oppressed strike back once in a while... they don't even realise that this attitude will just further endanger their own future, and that of their kids... hopeless...


Your too emotional to add anything useful to the debate imo. At least at this moment.
Some of what you said is true but a lot of it is commentary not fact.

The fact is Israel will not live with Hamas able to function from the Gaza strip any longer.

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Nov 4 2023 04:17pm)
I dont believe the 900+ number and I can't believe videos I haven't seen. If I told you I saw videos of the IDF doing all of these things you wouldn't trust me would you? I'm not saying they don't exist but I can't base my opinions off of them if I haven't seen them

I also dont trust the confessions of captured hamas because it is impossible to know if their confessions were coerced or not.

Even if all the claims are true it doesn't justify the response in my opinion.


Surprisingly humble of you to admit how ill-informed you are.

If your not informed, perhaps get informed or don't comment; As we can't be expected to listen to uninformed opinions. Nothing personal.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Nov 4 2023 10:21am
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Nov 4 2023 10:22am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 4 Nov 2023 18:17)
I dont believe the 900+ number and I can't believe videos I haven't seen. If I told you I saw videos of the IDF doing all of these things you wouldn't trust me would you? I'm not saying they don't exist but I can't base my opinions off of them if I haven't seen them

I also dont trust the confessions of captured hamas because it is impossible to know if their confessions were coerced or not.

Even if all the claims are true it doesn't justify the response in my opinion.


I served in the IDF for 3 years before entering Gaza we were getting a lawyer or a judge telling us what we can or can not do.
We are told constantly to avoid civilians and even protect them.


There are more than 900 civilians killed there is not even a debate about it
this is a fact.

And we are not going to react proportionally anymore.
We will use all our military power to obliterate this organization
Both jihad and Hamas.



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Nov 4 2023 10:23am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Nov 4 2023 09:17am)
I dont believe the 900+ number and I can't believe videos I haven't seen. If I told you I saw videos of the IDF doing all of these things you wouldn't trust me would you? I'm not saying they don't exist but I can't base my opinions off of them if I haven't seen them

I also dont trust the confessions of captured hamas because it is impossible to know if their confessions were coerced or not.

Even if all the claims are true it doesn't justify the response in my opinion.


You really can't be THIS stupid can you?

The videos are there. Your refusal to watch the videos is your own volition

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Nov 4 2023 10:24am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 4 2023 01:19pm)
Your too emotional to add anything useful to the debate imo. At least at this moment.
Some of what you said is true but a lot of it is commentary not fact.

The fact is Israel will not live with Hamas able to function from the Gaza strip any longer.



Surprisingly humble of you to admit how ill-informed you are.

If your not informed, perhaps get informed or don't comment; As we can't be expected to listen to uninformed opinions. Nothing personal.

Someone needs some attention I see :bonk:
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Nov 4 2023 10:25am
Quote (El1te @ Nov 4 2023 04:23pm)
You really can't be THIS stupid can you?

The videos are there. Your refusal to watch the videos is your own volition


This.
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Nov 4 2023 10:26am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 4 Nov 2023 18:24)
Someone needs some attention I see :bonk:


Someone needs to learn the facts before debating anything 🤦🤦🤦
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Nov 4 2023 10:30am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 4 2023 09:25am)
This.


It's like saying "China doesn't exist because I've never been there"

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Nov 4 2023 10:30am
Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 4 2023 04:26pm)
Someone needs to learn the facts before debating anything 🤦🤦🤦


Its denial. Always the path of least resistance.
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Nov 4 2023 10:32am
Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 4 2023 01:22pm)
I served in the IDF for 3 years before entering Gaza we were getting a lawyer or a judge telling us what we can or can not do.
We are told constantly to avoid civilians and even protect them.


There are more than 900 civilians killed there is not even a debate about it
this is a fact.

And we are not going to react proportionally anymore.
We will use all our military power to obliterate this organization
Both jihad and Hamas.

I dont care where you served, those judges or lawyers are not approving every bomb being dropped right now and if they are its obviously rubberstamped given the amount.

If they are avoiding civilian casualties and still causing so many it seems like clear incompetence to me, isn't the IDF an advanced military with superior equipment? Maybe they should learn how to properly aim those "precision" munitions

I know a website was tallying up the people killed but last I saw they were only around 900 and that was including IDF and police, has it been updated to show 900 civilian deaths?

Quote (El1te @ Nov 4 2023 01:23pm)
You really can't be THIS stupid can you?

The videos are there. Your refusal to watch the videos is your own volition


I've watched everything I can find, still seems like most of the claims are bullshit. Whenever I've asked none of you can provide proof of the things I ask for. Refusal to watch what exactly?

Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 4 2023 01:26pm)
Someone needs to learn the facts before debating anything 🤦🤦🤦


You haven't provided any evidence for anything lol, you just assert something as true or false and call people terrorist supporters if they don't agree. You haven't even addressed most of the posts you are replying to, just moving the goal posts because you can't argue with what I'm saying.

This post was edited by DizzyBusiness on Nov 4 2023 10:36am
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Nov 4 2023 10:33am
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