I already know that years-old dishonest and debunked talking point.

That part of the study was looking at assumptions made by bernie sanders. Wild cost cutting claims that are not correct or reasonable assumptions.
It still concluded taxes and spending would have to skyrocket even if those claims were accurate.

‘Well, if you assume X the cost would be Y, but that’s an unrealistic assumption, actual costs would be higher’ – it’s not accurate to say ‘He says the cost is Y!’

“What they shouldn’t say is that I also reached that conclusion, because that’s incorrect. That finding should not be attributed to me or to my study.”

"Blahous provided an alternative-scenario estimate, one that assumed instead that payments to health care providers would “remain equal on average to the current-law blend of higher private and lower public reimbursement rates.” Under that scenario, there would be a net increase in health care spending."

The top line of the paper’s abstract says that the bill “would, under conservative estimates, increase federal budget commitments by approximately $32.6 trillion during its first 10 years of full implementation.” According to the paper, even doubling all “currently projected federal individual and corporate income tax collections would be insufficient to finance the added federal costs of the plan.”



yes far-left propaganda orgs and politicians lie. Can you believe that?

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Apr 11 2021 03:59pm

Even a Koch study says m4a is great!

"Supporters of single-payer healthcare jumped the gun on this one, trying to convince people that Sander’s plan would somehow save money, without having any negative impact on access to care. They should have actually read the study first, because it actually helps paint a picture of what a disaster the plan would be."

...wait...

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Apr 11 2021 03:57pm

What metrics would you say make a good healthcare system? Access? Cost?

There can be no doubt that an Euro-style, universal healthcare system would be cheaper and yield better health outcomes than the crap America currently has. This does not, however, mean that socialized medicine is the best approach, or even recommendable at all.

The American healthcare system is so god-awful that it does not set a relevant bar. An alternative system beating it is not a sufficient argument in favor of that system.

Its an argument in favor of switching to that system when you currently have the worst system.

Lets just pick a better system and go with it and not let perfect get in the way of better.

It’s very easy to understand why though. Unlike other parts of the world here every step of the healthcare industry is measured by capitalistic metrics. Roa, profit, revenue, etc when in reality in this industry that’s not ideal.

Every one wants and keeps saying “we deserve more money”.

Just look at nurses for example during covid. Most nurses depending on the type of nurse are already making like 60-100 k per year and I’ve lost count of how many articles and Facebook have comments like “we heroes give money” type of feel to them.

Democrats want to give blank checks to this industry when the first step here is to make it comparable to the rest of the world when it comes to salaries, hospital stay pricing, administrative, etc.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 11 2021 04:56pm

Gotta also solve school cost and access. Doctors need to make a lot of money because they forego 10 years of income on top of hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt, and medical schools are now so competitive a masters degree is starting to become a necessity instead of a bonus.

Nursing is also super competitive to get into so you have similar issues.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 11 2021 04:58pm

is that all? at least you arent trying to deny the facts with another whataboutism

who is this ampoo? listen sweetheart, its not my problem that ýou hallucinate about nazis or users you had beef with behind every tree

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