Quote (Neptunus @ Mar 30 2023 05:13pm)

Nothing in the link you keep reposting ad nauseam refutes or even remotely answers to my point. The nations are actively modernizing their military and specifically buying NATO equipment over Soviet/Russian armament out of their own volition while being in the Membership Plan of NATO. Almost every state that is aspiring to be NATO considers Russia or an aligned state (like Serbia) an immediate threat. Finland's conscription existed post WW2 solely because of Russia and it bought a lot of NATO equipment and has been NATO compatible for years out of its own volition. The same somewhat applies to Sweden but it managed to avoid major war in the 20th century so they have a unique approach to defence politics.

Grow up. Being an edgy contrarian stopped being cool after high school. If youre 20 or something i can somehow understand it, but most of this forum is millenials or gen X so im guessing youre the same.



NATO supplies Euro leaders with coke and hookers, and when NATO calls them to arms theyll lead their sheeple people to it. Bad things happen after the countries become NATO countries.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Mar 30 2023 05:49pm)

But why are countries asking to join NATO and not asking to join Russia? That's the real crux here. Russia invades, NATO is requested.

Quote (Neptunus @ Mar 30 2023 06:13pm)

Nothing in the link you keep reposting ad nauseam refutes or even remotely answers to my point. The nations are actively modernizing their military and specifically buying NATO equipment over Soviet/Russian armament out of their own volition while being in the Membership Plan of NATO. Almost every state that is aspiring to be NATO considers Russia or an aligned state (like Serbia) an immediate threat. Finland's conscription existed post WW2 solely because of Russia and it bought a lot of NATO equipment and has been NATO compatible for years out of its own volition. The same somewhat applies to Sweden but it managed to avoid major war in the 20th century so they have a unique approach to defence politics.

Grow up. Being an edgy contrarian stopped being cool after high school. If youre 20 or something i can somehow understand it, but most of this forum is millenials or gen X so im guessing youre the same.



NATO supplies Euro leaders with coke and hookers, and when NATO calls them to arms theyll lead their sheeple people to do the dirty work. Bad things happen after the countries become NATO countries.

Quote (Djunior @ Mar 30 2023 05:46pm)

You completely avoid the issue at hand. NATO does not have the right to do whatever they please based on the excuse that "the countries wanted it". It simply doesn't work like that in geo-politics.




Dude in my time the West negotiated with the USSR okay. It's history, cannot be denied no matter how you try to spin it.

This is the age of purple haired woke "progressives" who think that geo-politics don't matter anymore, all other nations should roll over cuz they bad and people that disagree are fascists. It's wild.

Reality check: Russia has been driven into China's camp, energy crisis is real, poor countries can no longer afford record inflation and so on. YOU should grow up and face reality just like so many others that post here.

You're from EU? Have you heard about Tunisia recently and the next wave of migrants that are coming your way? There you go, you reap what you sow.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 30 2023 07:04pm)

Yes, yes they do.

Russia does not have the right to control what any other bloc or nation does. Thats superpower territory, not paper tiger territory comrade.

Quote (Djunior @ Mar 30 2023 11:46am)

You completely avoid the issue at hand. NATO does not have the right to do whatever they please based on the excuse that "the countries wanted it". It simply doesn't work like that in geo-politics.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Mar 30 2023 08:54pm)

That's literally exactly how it works in Geo politics

Quote (Djunior @ Mar 30 2023 08:21pm)

You shouldn't complain about the war if you believe this is exactly how it works ;)

Quote (Djunior @ 30 Mar 2023 15:48)

This is true.
But that doesn't mean that all other nations are going to accept NATO and in Russia's case that NATO tells them that they're bad, their president must be replaced and their country must be dismantled.
And you should also consider geo-politics and that every country in the world has their own priorities and countries must negotiate to come to agreements.
I suggest you start thinking about it ;)
Read above. Not all nations roll over and play dead when NATO comes knocking to spread freedom

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 30 Mar 2023 19:31)

Dr Hypocrisy

Quote (Djunior @ Mar 30 2023 02:21pm)

You shouldn't complain about the war if you believe this is exactly how it works ;)

Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 30 2023 09:33pm)

Nato is a defensive treaty only.