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Nov 4 2023 10:04am
Quote (ferdia @ Nov 4 2023 08:47am)
purely to educate myself now, can you show me the relevant law that says a hospital / school is a legitimate target ?



this is quite...extreme.


Quote (El1te @ Nov 4 2023 08:49am)
Perfidy is a war crime


To clarify & provide sources:

1977 Protocol I Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 Article 37:

1. It is prohibited to kill, injure or capture an adversary by resort to perfidy. Acts inviting the confidence of an adversary to lead him to believe that he is entitled to, or is obliged to accord, protection under the rules of international law applicable in armed conflict, with intent to betray that confidence, shall constitute perfidy. The following acts are examples of perfidy:

(a) The feigning of an intent to negotiate under a flag of truce or of a surrender;
(b) The feigning of an incapacitation by wounds or sickness;
(c) The feigning of civilian, non-combatant status; and
(d) The feigning of protected status by the use of signs, emblems or uniforms of the United Nations or of neutral or other States not Parties to the conflict.
2. Ruses of war are not prohibited. Such ruses are acts that are intended to mislead an adversary or to induce him to act recklessly but which infringe no rule of international law applicable in armed conflict and which are not perfidious because they do not invite the confidence of an adversary with respect to protection under that law. The following are examples of such ruses: the use of camouflage, decoys, mock operations and misinformation.

Important phrases are bolded.

By stating that these Hamas military institutions are schools/hospitals, you are an accessory to the war crime of perfidy.
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Quote (ferdia @ 4 Nov 2023 16:56)
i think you missed the part where he said bombing hospitals and schools is a legitimate target, or where he said 66K dead is their own problem.

i can only take so much of this so ill take a break from this topic for a bit.


nah i'm out as well, i've had my share of absolutely disgusting people defending the murdering of children with their flimsy excuses and mental gymnastics, there's only so much of it i can stand for a day...

that region will never see peace with radicals like that, who don't even realise how they are the oppressors, how they are the people who have been inflicting massive injustices on millions of innocent people for decades, stealing their land and resources, keeping them prisoners, destroying their homes and future, and then playing victim when some of the oppressed strike back once in a while... they don't even realise that this attitude will just further endanger their own future, and that of their kids... hopeless...
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Quote (ferdia @ Nov 4 2023 08:56am)
i think you missed the part where he said bombing hospitals and schools is a legitimate target, or where he said 66K dead is their own problem.

i can only take so much of this so ill take a break from this topic for a bit.


They are a legitimate target because they are not schools/hospitals. You are lying or misinformed. See my post above on the war crime that you yourself are an accessory to.
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Nov 4 2023 10:10am
Quote (fender @ 4 Nov 2023 17:57)
not only is that factually wrong, also is it fucking rich that an israeli suddenly tries to refer to "international law" as an authority in order to justify the slaughtering of civilians. according to international law, you have been ILLEGALLY OCCUPYING those regions for decades, and that is an ACTUAL fact.

you truly are a master of mental gymnastics... holy moly...


Because we are working according to international law.

You supposed to be disgust by Hamas using non combatant area as terror infested bases launching rockets from those area

This post was edited by Many_Names on Nov 4 2023 10:11am
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Because we are working according to international law.

You supposed to be disgust by Hamas using non combatant area as terror infested bases launching rockets from those area


These guys absolutely love their perfidy. The lowest of the low in terms of war crimes.

They're championing the tactics of fucking Ramsay Bolton.
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Nov 4 2023 10:14am
Quote (El1te @ 4 Nov 2023 18:13)
These guys absolutely love their perfidy. The lowest of the low in terms of war crimes.

They're championing the tactics of fucking Ramsay Bolton.


And they have their useful idiots to share it
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Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 4 2023 06:10pm)
Because we are working according to international law.

You supposed to be disgust by Hamas using non combatant targets as terror infested bases launching rockets from those area


These people will chant the same slogans even if the IDF will finish the operation without a single palestinian getting hurt. They stand in the same side as Iran, Hizbullah and many other of the worst regimes on the planet and still believe their own lie. Unbelievable.
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Nov 4 2023 10:15am
Quote (ferdia @ Nov 4 2023 03:39pm)
With brevity,

if a terrorist is in a school, not targeting the children would be to go in and take out the terrorist, and rescuing the children. dropping a bomb on the school is targeting the terrorist, and the children. even the US, your number 1 ally, the US, has finally relented on this point.


If a terrorist is in a school, unless he is giving elocution lessons then it is no longer a school.

Very dishonest approach even if well intentioned.

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Quote (fender @ 4 Nov 2023 17:57)
not only is that factually wrong, also is it fucking rich that an israeli suddenly tries to refer to "international law" as an authority in order to justify the slaughtering of civilians. according to international law, you have been ILLEGALLY OCCUPYING those regions for decades, and that is an ACTUAL fact.

you truly are a master of mental gymnastics... holy moly...


We are not occupying Gaza since 2005 let it sink
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Nov 4 2023 10:17am
Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 4 2023 12:13pm)
And killed 900+++ civilians point blank I saw their head camera videos
I saw raping,mutilation, in one incident They took a phone from a rape victim and went live on facebook while raping her.

We know from the prisioners that we caught that theu were given the orders to kill as many civilians as possible

So either you know the difference between right and wrong or not.

I dont believe the 900+ number and I can't believe videos I haven't seen. If I told you I saw videos of the IDF doing all of these things you wouldn't trust me would you? I'm not saying they don't exist but I can't base my opinions off of them if I haven't seen them

I also dont trust the confessions of captured hamas because it is impossible to know if their confessions were coerced or not.

Even if all the claims are true it doesn't justify the response in my opinion.
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