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Nov 4 2023 09:44am
Quote (ferdia @ 4 Nov 2023 17:39)
With brevity,

if a terrorist is in a school, not targeting the children would be to go in and take out the terrorist, and rescuing the children. dropping a bomb on the school is targeting the terrorist, and the children. even the US, your number 1 ally, the US, has finally relented on this point.


Mosque, School and even hospital are legitmateo targets according to international law if they are used by militants

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Under these laws there are instances in which otherwise civilian objects can become legitimate military targets if they are being used to effectively contribute to military action

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We already know shifa hospital is being used as a base

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Quote (WhiteSouned @ Nov 4 2023 03:39pm)
Death at Hiroshima is estimated to be 66,000
While according to the Palestinians their death are at merely 10K.
So yes, Israel is not targeting civilians.


scroll back for my original comment. that quote relates to the volume of ordinance dropped on Gaza in the last month.
i am not enamored by the rebuttal "merely 10k (dead)"
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Hamas are fanatics but israel far right gov isn't better, always calling for genocide, using a religious book citations,is more than a bad sign: they are very dangerous. These crazies may even pretend to represent all jews.

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scroll back for my original comment. that quote relates to the volume of ordinance dropped on Gaza in the last month.
i am not enamored by the rebuttal "merely 10k (dead)"


It can be 66k in Gaza if the targets are military targets according the international law than its their problem placing their civilians at risk
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Mosque, School and even hospital are legitmateo targets according to international law if they are used by militants


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We already shifa hospital is being used as a base


purely to educate myself now, can you show me the relevant law that says a hospital / school is a legitimate target ?

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It can be 66k in Gaza if the targets are military targets according the international law than its their problem placing their civilians at risk


this is quite...extreme.

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Quote (ferdia @ 4 Nov 2023 17:47)
purely to educate myself now, can you show me the relevant law that says a hospital / school is a legitimate target ?



this is quite...extreme.


Under the 1949 Geneva Conventions, non-combatants are protected under the applicable international humanitarian laws related to armed conflict. Because of their humanitarian duties, medical personnel may not be attacked or taken as prisoners of war. Article 18 of the Geneva Convention stipulates that a building designated as a civilian hospital cannot be the target of attack.

Humanitarian law is pragmatic, however, and has an answer when attacks are launched from places assumed to be protected. A building ceases to be a hospital when it is used as a base to launch rockets. Under these circumstances, a building is transformed from “hospital” to “legitimate military target.”
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Quote (ferdia @ Nov 4 2023 08:47am)
purely to educate myself now, can you show me the relevant law that says a hospital / school is a legitimate target ?


Perfidy is a war crime
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Quote (Many_Names @ 4 Nov 2023 16:31)
If we are doing ethnic clensing how did gaza population trippled itself 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦


you're doing the ethnic cleansing NOW. also, look up what "ethnic cleansing" actually means, because you clearly have no clue. how about at least familiarising yourself with the basics before trying to defend your slaughtering of innocent civilians?

also, the irony that you're basically using the idiotic "hOw cOuLd tHeRe hAvE bEeN a gEnOciDe aGAiNsT tHe jEwS wHeN tHeRe aRe mOrE jEwS tOdAy tHaN 1939?!" line, just ever so slightly altered, is truly something... shouldn't you, of all people, have some kind of awareness of how dumb that "argument" is?!
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Quote (fender @ Nov 4 2023 03:53pm)
you're doing the ethnic cleansing NOW. also, look up what "ethnic cleansing" actually means, because you clearly have no clue. how about at least familiarising yourself with the basics before trying to defend your slaughtering of innocent civilians?

also, the irony that you're basically using the idiotic "hOw cOuLd tHeRe hAvE bEeN a gEnOciDe aGAiNsT tHe jEwS wHeN tHeRe aRe mOrE jEwS tOdAy tHaN 1939?!" line, just ever so slightly altered, is truly something... shouldn't you, of all people, have some kind of awareness of how dumb that "argument" is?!


i think you missed the part where he said bombing hospitals and schools is a legitimate target, or where he said 66K dead is their own problem.

i can only take so much of this so ill take a break from this topic for a bit.

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Quote (Many_Names @ 4 Nov 2023 16:47)
It can be 66k in Gaza if the targets are military targets according the international law than its their problem placing their civilians at risk


not only is that factually wrong, also is it fucking rich that an israeli suddenly tries to refer to "international law" as an authority in order to justify the slaughtering of civilians. according to international law, you have been ILLEGALLY OCCUPYING those regions for decades, and that is an ACTUAL fact.

you truly are a master of mental gymnastics... holy moly...
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