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restrictions were lifted effective march 10th. that's 18 days ago. also, that graph is kinda pointless without context. compare it with national trend at least. most importantly: have texans started not wearing masks and given up social distancing, or has their behaviour largely not changed, just that it's not officially mandated anymore?

i thought covid was the ONE issue you wanted to try not to be a lazy right wing hack and rather side with science and reason for a change?

This post was edited by fender on Mar 28 2021 11:43am

better than farming dirt and drinking mud

the context doesnt even matter, because the numbers prove the one thing that you hate so much

lockdowns and state enforced restrictions are not needed

period

incredibly poor "argument".

the countries that did best are those that implemented harsh measures early.
if you want to see how succesful a true laissez-faire approach is just look at sweden or brazil - and you won't have a "point" anymore...

as a matter of fact i think the numbers in texas are the result of lots of vaccinations and the rona already making its round earlier

the us had so many infections that the numbers have to go down at some point

whatever it is and no matter how hard you try to not accept the facts, reopening texas now was the right decision

sweden only failed to prevent to manage the first wave, after that their results are similar to those with full lockdowns

brazil....you will hear no argument from me

i agree that acting early has been the recipe for success, but we are talking about february last year

the countries that prevented mass spreading by closing borders and immediate lockdowns had it right

however, everyone who missed that window saw mass spreading despite lockdowns

its almost funny looking back, when a certain german party suggested that all borders have to be closed and flights stopped

the reaction by the left wing politicians was laughter and the same morons are now lockdown fanatics

perhaps it wasnt a great idea to let full planes out of china or iran land here, we didnt even do temperature checks at the airport

as i said, once you pass a certain point it is game over

here you go:

ggnore


Are you arguing that these restrictions do not have to be mandated and can be effective enough (in Texas of all places) as voluntary recommendations?


Science on covid mitigation measures is fairly clearly saying that blanket lockdowns are only marginally more effective than very targetted lockdowns or intelligent contact, trace and isolate efforts (while causing far higher collateral damage).


This only pertains to countries which were able to successfully pursue an elimination strategy. And such a strategy hinges on geographic and social preconditions which are satisfied neither in Europe nor North or South America.
However, among comparable countries which were not able to get community spread between their borders down to zero, the long-term trajectory of countries which imposed harsher and earlier countermeasures is not better than that of countries which followed a more lenient approach.


Since the fall, Sweden has been dowing similar or even better than Germany/France/Italy/the UK, and that's in spite of less restrictions. They made one crucial mistake at the onset of the pandemic when they didnt protect their elderly enough. This, not their lack of lockdowns or mask mandates, caused their high mortality during the first wave last spring. It is completely unfair how this one mistake is, to this day, held against them by lockdown proponents.

For example, during the fall/winter wave, Germany failed just as miserably to protect its nursing homes and as a consequence had a period with higher per capita mortality from covid than even Trump's U.S. But for obvious reasons, neither the international press nor Germany's "camp lockdown" hold it against Germany's government and its covid strategy, while the exact same mistake is still weaponized to discredit the Swedish approach.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 28 2021 05:42pm

how many cases per population in texas compared to US? your graph is missing a scale unfortunately. also worth noting that texas lags SIGNIFICANTLY behind when it comes to testing, which obviously leads to fewer detected cases.
anyway, i am arguing that even in texas many people realised that masks and distancing work - DESPITE the GQP's anti-scientific approach and rhetoric - especially after it had been mandated for so long. one can just hope that texans don't get too careless because IF it backfires (which we really can't tell yet, no matter how much you lie about the time that has passed), i really don't see how officials could ever hope to issue and enforce any measures again now.

The case #'s were always a joke because there is no central standard for threshold cycles on PCR tests.