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Mar 26 2021 07:34pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Mar 27 2021 12:29pm)
I don't care what you think. You are unintelligent garbage.
Intelligent people often look stupid or evil to actual stupid people like yourself.

Yes you immediately calling me a liar in response to me pointing out that you are lying clearly justifies my response. Its sad that you cant understand that.


A dishonest insult does not substantiate itself.


Libertarians oppose a number of regulations that restrict freedom and often lead to bad outcomes. Many of these regulations are supported by large corporations and the super-wealthy because it benefits them and/or harms their competition.

Pretending those regulations are actually all lovely and necessary does not make opposition to government regulations that restrict freedom somehow anti-freedom.
Thats an idiotic opposite-day tier position.

Falsely pretending libertarians worship oligarchs is another baseless and completely stupid claim. Libertarians are the primary critic of government.


LOL No its not.


Another fact-free story.
You aren't up for the task of honestly addressing the arguments or ideology so you make up a story about libertarians loving oligarchs and not caring about the poor.
Its intellectually invalid and dishonest.

Now that your lies have been debunked again its probably time for you to go back to claiming liberty is fascism or racist for a few weeks then circle back around.


You say you do all of these things, its obvious to anyone with a brain the policies you advocate do the opposite of what you claim to want.
As i said, left libertarianism already existed, mises was a corporate hack who wanted more power in the hands of business and less in the hands of elected representatives.
I mean i know what you think youi represent in you head canon but its just not accurate to people living in the real world who have to read your awful posts.

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Quote (Plaguefear @ Mar 26 2021 09:34pm)
You say you do all of these things, its obvious to anyone with a brain the policies you advocate do the opposite of what you claim to want.
As i said, left libertarianism already existed, mises was a corporate hack who wanted more power in the hands of business and less in the hands of elected representatives.


REALLY wanting to believe its true and repeating it over and over again doesn't make it true.
You have a desperate need to pretend its true because it not being true would lead you to being uncomfortable with your worldview and absolutely pathetic behavior.

You have no idea who Mises was. You are calling him a corporate hack out of spite and ignorance.

'Left-libertarianism' being separate and different from right-libertarianism (aka libertarianism) is not a slight against right-libertarianism.

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I mean i know what you think youi represent in you head canon but its just not accurate to people living in the real world who have to read your awful posts.


Claiming people who are living in the real world are on your side is not an argument.
Its code for 'I can't refute what you are saying, so i'll pretend the real world is on my side'

You are vapid

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Mar 26 2021 07:47pm
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Quote (cambovenzi @ Mar 27 2021 12:47pm)
REALLY wanting to believe its true and repeating it over and over again doesn't make it true.
You have a desperate need to pretend its true because it not being true would lead you to being uncomfortable with your worldview and absolutely pathetic behavior.

You have no idea who Mises was. You are calling him a corporate hack out of spite and ignorance.

'Left-libertarianism' being separate and different from right-libertarianism (aka libertarianism) is not a slight against right-libertarianism.



Claiming people who are living in the real world are on your side is not an argument.
Its code for 'I can't refute what you are saying, so i'll pretend the real world is on my side'

You are vapid


Agree to disagree, not everyone has to believe your delusions, even if you really really believe them.
I mean here you are calling right libertarianism the real one, when left libertarianism predates it by a few hundred years.
I mean its the real world, what do you want me to do? i can't bend reality to fit your insane narrative.

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Quote (Plaguefear @ Mar 26 2021 09:58pm)
Agree to disagree, not everyone has to believe your delusions, even if you really really believe them.


There is no agree to disagree here. You are wrong, refused to intellectually address the points, and acted like scum by lying about me and libertarianism.

Falsely referring to anything I have said as 'delusions' is another immature tactic to deflect from your severe shortcomings.

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I mean here you are calling right libertarianism the real one, when left libertarianism predates it by a few hundred years.


Thinking left-libertarianism predated right-libertarianism by hundreds or thousands of years doesn't mean right-libertarianism is not libertarianism. Basic genetic fallacy.
Right-libertarianism actually advocates liberty and constitutes what most people know as 'libertarianism' in the modern era, especially in America.

18th century socialists who used the word libertarian are different from modern libertarians.
In reality various libertarian figures like Lysander Spooner and Frederic Bastiat were born in the early 1800s and modern libertarian thought also branched off of enlightenment values of the 17th and 18th centuries.

Being relatively newer doesn't make it any less valid.
"but left libertarianism existed first!!!" is not an argument against (right-)libertarianism.

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I mean its the real world, what do you want me to do?


Yeah dude, the real world. Its totally on your side. Tell your psychologist when the real world told you that; im sure he wants to know.
Definitely excuses you from having to justify anything you say or lie about.
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Quote (cambovenzi @ Mar 27 2021 01:25pm)
There is no agree to disagree here. You are wrong, refused to intellectually address the points, and acted like scum by lying about me and libertarianism.

Falsely referring to anything I have said as 'delusions' is another immature tactic to deflect from your severe shortcomings.



Thinking left-libertarianism predated right-libertarianism by hundreds or thousands of years doesn't mean right-libertarianism is not libertarianism. Basic genetic fallacy.
Right-libertarianism actually advocates liberty and constitutes what most people know as 'libertarianism' in the modern era, especially in America.

18th century socialists who used the word libertarian are different from modern libertarians.
In reality various libertarian figures like Lysander Spooner and Frederic Bastiat were born in the early 1800s and modern libertarian thought also branched off of enlightenment values of the 17th and 18th centuries.

Being relatively newer doesn't make it any less valid.
"but left libertarianism existed first!!!" is not an argument against (right-)libertarianism.



Yeah dude, the real world. Its totally on your side. Tell your psychologist when the real world told you that; im sure he wants to know.
Definitely excuses you from having to justify anything you say or lie about.


You cant force me to agree, sorry, this is still reality.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Mar 26 2021 10:27pm)
You cant force me to agree, sorry, this is still reality.


I have no interest in forcing you to do anything.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Mar 26 2021 09:27pm)
You cant force me to agree, sorry, this is still reality.


Cam has issues with reality so he tries to substitute his own

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Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 27 2021 01:29pm)
Cam has issues with reality so he tries to substitute his own


Well yeah, mises was left wing.
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In all seriousness, cam is probably the biggest snowflake on this forum.
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