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I'll save you guys some time, he is drinking his own piss and believes it cures disease and keep him healthy.

people are so fuckin ignorant indeed


There’s a “my strange addiction” episode about a woman who did that since she believed it would cure her cancer. Obviously it doesn’t cure cancer but it’s what she believed.
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To be fair, in January and February, almost all world leaders were still downplaying the virus.
It took Trump particularly long to come around to the new reality and take the necessary steps though, so yeah, he definitely deserves a ton of blame for his slow and incompetent response.
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Bets on whether the ivory tower folk will find a reason to cry about this?

Meanwhile people have to fight over food with mostly the poor impacted as they have to spend more money than before.

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WASHINGTON—President Trump is planning to take action later Tuesday to mandate that meat-processing plants remain open during the coronavirus pandemic, according to an administration official.

The official said the president would invoke the Defense Production Act, a Korean War-era law, to keep the facilities open. Another person familiar with the matter said he would designate the plants as critical infrastructure under the law and take steps to improve safety for employees at the facilities.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-to-take-executive-action-to-keep-meat-processing-plants-open-11588099443
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Bets on whether the ivory tower folk will find a reason to cry about this?

Meanwhile people have to fight over food with mostly the poor impacted as they have to spend more money than before.



https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-to-take-executive-action-to-keep-meat-processing-plants-open-11588099443


Mandate how? like here in my local area Green Bay has had several plants close due to rampant cases of Covid. so if say they have 30 floor workers, and 10 get Covid with 1-2 having bad symptoms, and you say "let's close for 2 weeks because i can't train new butchers to do a highly specialized job in 2 weeks and even if i could id be laying them off soon anyways." what would the president do? fly in army butchers? fine them for closing but also give them no legal protection if people sue them for transmitting the virus to drivers?

i like the idea of focusing attention on truly essential businesses, but im at a loss for how that is actually done in a manufacturing setting.
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Mandate how? like here in my local area Green Bay has had several plants close due to rampant cases of Covid. so if say they have 30 floor workers, and 10 get Covid with 1-2 having bad symptoms, and you say "let's close for 2 weeks because i can't train new butchers to do a highly specialized job in 2 weeks and even if i could id be laying them off soon anyways." what would the president do? fly in army butchers? fine them for closing but also give them no legal protection if people sue them for transmitting the virus to drivers?

i like the idea of focusing attention on truly essential businesses, but im at a loss for how that is actually done in a manufacturing setting.


IMO this is more about overruling states. There are plenty of edicts on who has to close. Food supply is essential and if you don't want arab-springesque outcomes it's one of the first things you need to make sure is it's certainty.

I live in the a medium sized city and i'v noticed food shortages all over, even weeks after the panic buying. It's something we need to keep a very close eye on.
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IMO this is more about overruling states. There are plenty of edicts on who has to close. Food supply is essential and if you don't want arab-springesque outcomes it's one of the first things you need to make sure is it's certainty.

I live in the a medium sized city and i'v noticed food shortages all over, even weeks after the panic buying. It's something we need to keep a very close eye on.


ahh i see. any examples of states that have closed off food production by deeming them non-essential? im honestly not very up to date on state-by-state differences in lockdowns. in the midwest at least its been food production wide open the whole time. even my beer manufacturers stayed open and were crying about getting equipment asap.
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