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Sep 24 2023 05:08am
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Sep 23 2023 05:12am)
God thought its worth the risk? Which risk?

He KNEW what would happen. Everything. All of it. Free Will is not real if there is someone who knows the future. What are those terms anyways?
Future, risk, good, bad, sin, sacrifice, son, cross, death....all those things are created by god, all of it exists because he liked it that way.
If god exists and he is omnipotent, then everything that ever happened and will happen is ONLY his responsibility. His alone.
When there is a god, then there cannot be free will. Free will would be a god created illusion. Because every sin you commit in your lifetime would be known by god before you would even be born and you wouldnt have any chance at all to change anything you ever did or will do.
Every decision we ever make or made was already bound to happen, cause god already knew it. God knows everything since...forever.

God never had to risk anything.

And by the way the pathetic argument of evil is needed for good to exist is absolutely ridiculous. This is not the thought process an omnipotent being would have, thats just flawed human logic cause our brain needs the contrast to differenciate. If evil was wanted by god and he would need it to differenciate than why punish it instead of accepting it as something necessary he WANTED in his universe?

I hope the day will come that you and other religious narrowminds acknowledge the ridiculousness of religion.

If god would exist, he would be a pathetic, punishing, tormenting asshole. Thats 100% obvious.


free will
some one looks around before they commit a crime. the fact that they look around is proof of free will. if they didnt have free will they wouldnt look around. they would just commit the crime regardless
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Sep 24 2023 01:43pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Sep 24 2023 06:08am)
free will
some one looks around before they commit a crime. the fact that they look around is proof of free will. if they didnt have free will they wouldnt look around. they would just commit the crime regardless



free will was satans goal to corrupt, your fallen predicament isnt free, you are filled w/ the mercurious spirit, lest you say gods love manifested mrna NWO.


mind control by pure evil is how reality operates. unless you think hacking peoples brains by haxxines is a sign of a loving god? that free will was stripped, therefore you should rebuke that controller referred to as satan.

then you will know what it means to have your head cut off by a 5g towers and to go against the mark of the beast dragon system.

sure you read about it somewhere that if you follow jesus you will do great things but also face horrendous suffering:





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Quote (lodd222 @ Sep 24 2023 12:43pm)
free will was satans goal to corrupt, your fallen predicament isnt free, you are filled w/ the mercurious spirit,lest you say gods love manifested mrna NWO.


mind control by pure evil is how reality operates. unless you think hacking peoples brains by haxxines is a sign of a loving god? that free will was stripped, therefore you should rebuke that controller referred to as satan.
then you will know what it means to have your head cut off by a 5g towers and to go against the mark of the beast dragon system.

sure you read about it somewhere that if you follow jesus you will do great things but also face horrendous suffering:



https://i.ibb.co/sQCBvcq/375678398-10223351129781819-6146187340760214502-n.jpg


so we agree the world is in a fallen condition?
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Sep 24 2023 06:07pm
The following passage is referring to BELIEVERS in Christ and the Judgement for REWARDS. Notice that it says of the guy who didn't have any rewards that He Himself shall be saved. That's because we are not saved by Works, we are saved by Grace through Faith alone. The FIRE is referring to Judgement of a believers works for Christ, but it's not for Salvation, it's for REWARDS.

1Co 3:9 For we are God's fellow workers; you are God's field, you are God's building.
10 According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But let each one take heed how he builds on it.
11 For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12 Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw,
13 each one's work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one's work, of what sort it is.
14 If anyone's work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward.
15 If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

Communion, The Lord's Supper is simply a Memorial, symbols of the Body and Blood of Christ, yes. If you took an ultra sound image of the bread and wine in the stomach, they would remain bread and wine in the stomach. They do not turn into the Body and blood of Christ. What Christ said was a Spiritual meaning, not a physical one. It also has no part in Salvation, because it is a Memorial to those who are already saved.
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Sep 25 2023 05:54am
Quote (TiStuff @ Sep 24 2023 01:08pm)
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some one looks around before they commit a crime. the fact that they look around is proof of free will. if they didnt have free will they wouldnt look around. they would just commit the crime regardless


You understand that free will isnt proven, right? So I dont know if free will is real or not, but I know that if god exists, then its not. Pretty simple.

If god exists, then the fact that everything you will do in your life is already inevitable by the fact that god already knows it, makes free will an impossible concept.
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Sep 25 2023 06:00am
Quote (CPK001 @ Sep 24 2023 06:38am)
You've also now changed your mind from when you said this. Good to know we agree that God is omnipotent.


I know that you guys say god is omnipotent, so I of course go along those lines to disprove free will and therefor prove gods responsability for every action ever made by men.

If god exists, he gave us the illusion of free will and therefor is responsable for everything that ever happened. Why?
Because he knows every step we ever made, make and ever will make, thats also true for all people who arent even born yet.
So no matter what we THINK we decide by our free will, is already carved in stone since forever cause god knows it since forever.
So he'd be responsable. He alone for everything. Good or bad.
Humans wouldnt be to blame for anything at all and he'd be guilty of everything without exception.

So either god exists and is an asshole or he doesnt exist.

This post was edited by Modulok2405 on Sep 25 2023 06:04am
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Sep 25 2023 06:17am
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Sep 25 2023 10:00pm)
I know that you guys say god is omnipotent, so I of course go along those lines to disprove free will and therefor prove gods responsability for every action ever made by men.

If god exists, he gave us the illusion of free will and therefor is responsable for everything that ever happened. Why?
Because he knows every step we ever made, make and ever will make, thats also true for all people who arent even born yet.
So no matter what we THINK we decide by our free will, is already carved in stone since forever cause god knows it since forever.
So he'd be responsable. He alone for everything. Good or bad.
Humans wouldnt be to blame for anything at all and he'd be guilty of everything without exception.

So either god exists and is an asshole or he doesnt exist.


Ahh right, I've had this thing where I have had to put up with the lot of you can't deciding whether you have free will in the first place or whether God giving free will was the right call or not.

Tell you what, let me know when you've decided which way you want to go before you want to press on this topic.
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Sep 25 2023 06:20am
Quote (CPK001 @ Sep 25 2023 02:17pm)
Ahh right, I've had this thing where I have had to put up with the lot of you can't deciding whether you have free will in the first place or whether God giving free will was the right call or not.

Tell you what, let me know when you've decided which way you want to go before you want to press on this topic.


If free will exists, god cannot.

If god exists, free will cannot.

Its pretty simple.
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Sep 25 2023 11:17am
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Sep 25 2023 04:54am)
You understand that free will isnt proven, right? So I dont know if free will is real or not, but I know that if god exists, then its not. Pretty simple.

If god exists, then the fact that everything you will do in your life is already inevitable by the fact that god already knows it, makes free will an impossible concept.


a criminal changing their mind when find there my be repercussions because they notice they are being watched proves free will
if they didnt have free will they would just to it anyway.
just because some one may know a person (our hypothetical criminal) well enough to know how they will react (to being watched or not) doesnt mean that person (the criminal) doesnt have free will
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Sep 25 2023 11:29am
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Sep 22 2023 10:14am)
awesome. theres thousands of those


Australopithecus afarensis aka lucy. would you like to make a commentary on it?

ok then lets move on.

Australopithecus afarensis aka lucy is supposed to be the best of the best fossil evidence of a missing link.
when in fact its just the latest scam. what is really disturbing about it is all those 'atheists that appoint themselves the greatest thinkers of all time never call these people out for their frauds. making the institution of science at times a laughing stock

this next video is based in part on a book called "contested bones" challenges the interpretation 'atheist 'evolutionists have of the fossil record.
@ 36:24 marketing of lucy. the hadar dig was a mixed bone bed of human and ape bones. having 'lucy living with humans is a problem.
@ 37:02 all bones were now classified as one species. the bigger human bones were "male" and the smaller ape bones were "female" (sexual dimorphism used for size explanation)
Review of "Contested Bones" (Part 6 - Chapter 6 "Australopithecus afarensis") 3-10-2018 by Paul Giem

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