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Quote (Plaguefear @ Mar 24 2021 01:34am)
You want a real democracy? Make voting mandatory.


Give cats the right to vote too why dont you
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 23 2021 06:44pm)
I'll find a way to stream it for free and will feel better about myself because I'm stealing from a company and person that i dislike.


i hate amazon too, but free 2 day shipping is too good to pass up.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 24 2021 07:00am)
i hate amazon too, but free 2 day shipping is too good to pass up.


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some vendors this is 100% true, but i do like that i can buy diapers, a tree saw, paper plates, and other shit without running around to the individual sites where it's cheaper than amazon's price.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ 24 Mar 2021 06:36)
We'd end up with Bernie :thumbsup:


Bernie couldnt even win his own party's primary. What makes you think he could win over the country at large?
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 24 Mar 2021 14:38)
Bernie couldnt even win his own party's primary. What makes you think he could win over the country at large?


mandatory voting. learn to read.
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Quote (fender @ 24 Mar 2021 20:06)
mandatory voting. learn to read.


So you admit that the base for Bernie (and, by extension, progressive politics) are apolitical low information low propensity voters? :lol: :lol:
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 25 2021 12:38am)
Bernie couldnt even win his own party's primary. What makes you think he could win over the country at large?


His own party rigged that primary and it was proven without a shadow of a doubt.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ 24 Mar 2021 21:16)
His own party rigged that primary and it was proven without a shadow of a doubt.


It was rigged against him in 2016, yes. But this doesnt mean that he would have won, let alone won convincingly, without that. Chances are that it would have been a tossup between him and Hillary without the manipulation, rather than the Bernie landslide his supporters fantasize about.

In 2020, there was no rigging against Bernie, and he still got squashed. And that's in spite of his 2020 campaign operating under the very assumption which also underlies fender's claim: that there is this huge pool of non-voters who are overwhelmingly leaning toward progressive policies and only need to be activated. Bernie's 2020 campaign went all-in on this "silent progressive majority" hypothesis and got clobbered.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 24 2021 02:29pm
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 25 2021 07:28am)
It was rigged against him in 2016, yes. But this doesnt mean that he would have won, let alone won convincingly, without that. Chances are that it would have been a tossup between him and Hillary without the manipulation, rather than the Bernie landslide his supporters fantasize about.

In 2020, there was no rigging against Bernie, and he still got squashed. And that's in spite of his 2020 campaign operating under the very assumption which also underlies fender's claim: that there is this huge pool of non-voters who are overwhelmingly leaning toward progressive policies and only need to be activated. Bernie's 2020 campaign went all-in on this "silent progressive majority" hypothesis and got clobbered.


Prove 2020 wasn't rigged.
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