Quote (CPK001 @ Sep 23 2023 10:38am)
I don't know why it took him 7 days, all I can see is what God created on each day and on the seventh day God rested.
Here's a quote which I think applies to the subject and explains very well how I feel:
"God created things which had free will. That means creatures which can go either wrong or right. Some people think they can imagine a creature which was free but had no possibility of going wrong; I cannot. If a thing is free to be good it is also free to be bad. And free will is what has made evil possible. Why, then, did God give them free will? Because free will though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having. A world of automata-of creatures that worked like machines-would hardly be worth creating. The happiness which God designs for His higher creatures is the happiness of being freely, voluntarily united to Him and to each other in an ecstasy of love and delight compared with which the most rapturous love between a man and a woman on this earth is mere milk and water. And for that they must be free.
Of course God knew what would happen if they used their freedom the wrong way: apparently He thought it worth the risk. Perhaps we feel inclined to disagree with Him. But there is a difficulty about disagreeing with God. He is the source from which all your reasoning power comes: you could not be right and He wrong any more than a stream can rise higher than its own source. When you are arguing against Him you are arguing against the very power that makes you able to argue at all: it is like cutting off the branch you are sitting on. If God thinks this state of war in the universe a price worth paying for free will-that is, for making a live world in which creatures can do real good or harm and something of real importance can happen, instead of a toy world which only moves when He pulls the strings-then we may take it it is worth paying."
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Because we sin, we deserve death and judgement. Knowing God's character, he cannot turn a blind eye and must act in judgement. However God looked upon our state and how we were dead in our Trespasses. While we were still sinners and rebellious towards God, Christ died for us.
The resurrection is God's stamp of approval in that he accepts Christ's sacrifice and that he took the blame and bore the wrath so that we could stand forgiven at the cross.
It is truly mind boggling.
God thought its worth the risk? Which risk?
He KNEW what would happen. Everything. All of it. Free Will is not real if there is someone who knows the future. What are those terms anyways?
Future, risk, good, bad, sin, sacrifice, son, cross, death....all those things are created by god, all of it exists because he liked it that way.
If god exists and he is omnipotent, then everything that ever happened and will happen is ONLY his responsibility. His alone.
When there is a god, then there cannot be free will. Free will would be a god created illusion. Because every sin you commit in your lifetime would be known by god before you would even be born and you wouldnt have any chance at all to change anything you ever did or will do.
Every decision we ever make or made was already bound to happen, cause god already knew it. God knows everything since...forever.
God never had to risk anything.
And by the way the pathetic argument of evil is needed for good to exist is absolutely ridiculous. This is not the thought process an omnipotent being would have, thats just flawed human logic cause our brain needs the contrast to differenciate. If evil was wanted by god and he would need it to differenciate than why punish it instead of accepting it as something necessary he WANTED in his universe?
I hope the day will come that you and other religious narrowminds acknowledge the ridiculousness of religion.
If god would exist, he would be a pathetic, punishing, tormenting asshole. Thats 100% obvious.
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