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Mar 18 2021 11:54am
Quote (Kuggergug @ Mar 18 2021 12:27pm)
You are still not doing it. Don't go with "people who know". Go out and talk to people.


:rofl:

Talk to people who do it.

Oh no not those people. Those people dont count. And ignore that we know the rates because the data is public. Just believe me.
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Quote (fender @ Mar 18 2021 12:08am)
https://i.imgur.com/Mqp15Dq.png



holy mother of cringe. could you be more of toady if you tried to? have you no self-respect?

i mean, if you think $7.25 is an adequate minimum wage, fair enough. it's a stupid opinion, but you are of course entitled to that. the obvious pandering to our low-iq far right forum trolls, however, the desperate look for approval... that's just shameful, mate...


I don't think it's adequate, I just thought the cartoon was bloody awful. If you thought it was good, that would qualify as a stupid opinion (and one you're entitled to)

It's quite interesting how you're offended that people with different political views actually get along on this forum, it gives an insight into the type of person you are
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Quote (Kuggergug @ Mar 17 2021 11:43pm)
Uh no, don't trust that data. go out and actually ask them what they are making.


Most people trying to sell you on herbalife would say the same you know
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Quote (dro94 @ 18 Mar 2021 19:06)
I don't think it's adequate, I just thought the cartoon was bloody awful. If you thought it was good, that would qualify as a stupid opinion (and one you're entitled to)

It's quite interesting how you're offended that people with different political views actually get along on this forum, it gives an insight into the type of person you are


don't even try. you specifically bitched about the truthfulness of the message, not about the quality of the cartoon.

also, if you were a reasonably intelligent person, you'd know there is a difference between "getting along" with people, and the smarmy pandering, the desperate look for appoval "hurr durr, france bad at war stuff, am i right, guys? *miC dRoP*" that you did there. peak cringe.
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Quote (fender @ Mar 18 2021 11:21am)
don't even try. you specifically bitched about the truthfulness of the message, not about the quality of the cartoon.

also, if you were a reasonably intelligent person, you'd know there is a difference between "getting along" with people, and the smarmy pandering, the desperate look for appoval "hurr durr, france bad at war stuff, am i right, guys? *miC dRoP*" that you did there. peak cringe.


"hurr durr imma post that Stalin bullshit meme in here not just once but three times! herp derp"
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Quote (fender @ Mar 18 2021 06:21pm)
don't even try. you specifically bitched about the truthfulness of the message, not about the quality of the cartoon.

also, if you were a reasonably intelligent person, you'd know there is a difference between "getting along" with people, and the smarmy pandering, the desperate look for appoval "hurr durr, france bad at war stuff, am i right, guys? *miC dRoP*" that you did there. peak cringe.


I agree with increasing the minimum wage, but not with the narrative that employers are enslaving their workers like the cartoon portrays

How could a reasonably intelligent person not make that simple distinction?

You always make aspersions on people's intelligence like you're intellectually superior. It's clearly something you're quite insecure and obsessed about considering how much you go on about it. Hope you feel better soon and let some of that bitterness go

This post was edited by dro94 on Mar 18 2021 12:33pm
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I agree with increasing the minimum wage, but not with the narrative that employers are enslaving their workers like the cartoon portrays

How could a reasonably intelligent person not make that simple distinction?

You always make aspersions on people's intelligence like you're intellectually superior. It's clearly something you're quite insecure and obsessed about considering how much you go on about it. Hope you feel better soon and let some of that bitterness go


i'd introduce you to the concept of exaggeration for dramatic / comic effect, but i feel that'd be too complicated for someone like you. also, you're obviously just trying to save face after i called you out for your pathetic behaviour and disingenuous backpedal, so you probably would have tried the same line even if you were somehow familiar with it...
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 17 2021 11:40pm)
Oh, if that's the bar then I make 20k a month day trading.

I said it so it's obviously true.

https://gridwise.io/how-much-do-rideshare-drivers-make

The data for uber, lyft, etc. are pretty easily available. Here's the averages for last January.


Wow, that is far higher than I thought it would be. This is a complete non-issue.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 17 2021 11:42pm)
In the case of food delivery, they probably do need to be contractors.

In the case of taxi, probably not.

However, this doesn't really go against any of my points, that the gig economy (in this case in the form of taxi drivers) comes at the expense of traditional employment and one of the negatives is that the gig workers are paid less and not given benefits, and that this isn't some "leg up" in the system that we can apply to everybody.


I don't really care about the official definition between contractor and employee. It's the value of the service that matters. There are an awful lot of us who can drive, and who wouldn't mind doing it for a little bit of extra income.

The value of the gig economy is that it provides individuals with a less formal, quicker, and easier source of immediate income. Need to close some holes in the pocket book? Start ubering in your spare time. Have a few extra hours on the week-end and bills to pay? Start delivering food. Do you need a job at odd hours because you're in school and nothing else works? Uber is available.

Taxi drivers are not getting a "leg up" in the world, at least not in the sense that there's much advancement opportunity. They're taking advantage of a monopoly to gouge their customers. Good riddance.
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Quote (bogie160 @ 18 Mar 2021 19:09)
Wow, that is far higher than I thought it would be. This is a complete non-issue.



I don't really care about the official definition between contractor and employee. It's the value of the service that matters. There are an awful lot of us who can drive, and who wouldn't mind doing it for a little bit of extra income.

The value of the gig economy is that it provides individuals with a less formal, quicker, and easier source of immediate income. Need to close some holes in the pocket book? Start ubering in your spare time. Have a few extra hours on the week-end and bills to pay? Start delivering food. Do you need a job at odd hours because you're in school and nothing else works? Uber is available.

Taxi drivers are not getting a "leg up" in the world, at least not in the sense that there's much advancement opportunity. They're taking advantage of a monopoly to gouge their customers. Good riddance.

that user never had to work to pay bills. state subsidy and nonstop loans (that the user has no intention of paying back) were much easier
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