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Mar 15 2021 11:50am
Quote (duffman316 @ 15 Mar 2021 18:23)
This is nutjob level lunacy. Are you seriously going to argue life under the soviet union is more desirable than present day america? You might as well be seeing north korea as a paradise compared to the states.


neither seriously nor jokingly, no. it's amazing how many of you either whoooshed on that simple meme, or strawman it in order to downplay the issue it highlights. it says literally nothing about the overall desirability of living under a certain regime, it's merely a point about the lunacy of america's prison and justice system, using the universally condemned soviet gulags to illustrate how insane america's numbers are.
it's even funnier if you keep in mind how much americans tout their love of "freedom™" and how they deluded themselves into thinking their guns protect them against government oppression, lol.



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Mar 15 2021 12:32pm
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neither seriously nor jokingly, no. it's amazing how many of you either whoooshed on that simple meme, or strawman it in order to downplay the issue it highlights. it says literally nothing about the overall desirability of living under a certain regime, it's merely a point about the lunacy of america's prison and justice system, using the universally condemned soviet gulags to illustrate how insane america's numbers are.
it's even funnier if you keep in mind how much americans tout their love of "freedom™" and how they deluded themselves into thinking their guns protect them against government oppression, lol.

https://i.imgur.com/t3RcJdF.jpeg


again, your derpy self just needs to stop worrying about the u.s. you literally are so rife with anger about your ancestors losing to world wars that you just want to through your un-educated slime at the US. you really have no fucking clue what you are talking about, you are just so enraged from being nothing that this is the type of non-sense you resort to.
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Mar 15 2021 12:45pm
Quote (fender @ Mar 15 2021 06:50pm)
neither seriously nor jokingly, no. it's amazing how many of you either whoooshed on that simple meme, or strawman it in order to downplay the issue it highlights. it says literally nothing about the overall desirability of living under a certain regime, it's merely a point about the lunacy of america's prison and justice system, using the universally condemned soviet gulags to illustrate how insane america's numbers are.
it's even funnier if you keep in mind how much americans tout their love of "freedom™" and how they deluded themselves into thinking their guns protect them against government oppression, lol.

https://i.imgur.com/t3RcJdF.jpeg


you dont need to post the same trash a second time

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Mar 15 2021 01:00pm
that has to have been the most successful political meme in pard history, lol.
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Mar 15 2021 01:14pm
Quote (fender @ Mar 15 2021 01:50pm)
neither seriously nor jokingly, no. it's amazing how many of you either whoooshed on that simple meme, or strawman it in order to downplay the issue it highlights. it says literally nothing about the overall desirability of living under a certain regime, it's merely a point about the lunacy of america's prison and justice system, using the universally condemned soviet gulags to illustrate how insane america's numbers are.
it's even funnier if you keep in mind how much americans tout their love of "freedom™" and how they deluded themselves into thinking their guns protect them against government oppression, lol.

https://i.imgur.com/t3RcJdF.jpeg


They aren't universally condemned. There is a non neglible demographic of marxists that praise the ussr and downplay whats happening in china with the uyghurs while dismissing the history of communism as being part of imperialist propaganda.
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They aren't universally condemned. There is a non neglible demographic of marxists that praise the ussr and downplay whats happening in china with the uyghurs while dismissing the history of communism as being part of imperialist propaganda.


gulags being universally condemned and people pointing out how propaganda has been (and still is) used to fearmonger about the ideas of socialism and communism, by simplistically equating them with an authoritarian regime, are not mutually exclusive, you know? that's only a contradiction if you really bought into the braindead black and white narratives of such propagandists.

anyway, that meme made absolutely no comment on the overall desirability of living under a certain regime. it merely highlights how insane america's prison population is - so much so that one could easily assume the numbers describe one of the worst examples of systemic incarceration one could think of, rather than a country that brands itself as the "land of the free", lol.

anyone who thinks the point is to glorify stalin's genocidal authoritarian rule is either stupidly overinterpreting the obvious message, or dishonestly trying to deflect from the real and present issue highlighted.

am i surprised to see someone, who uncritically bought into the victimhood narrative surrounding piers fucking morgan, to frame it that way? hardly, but it's still a bit disappointing, as i hoped that with a bit of a hint in the right direction, you'd be able to realise how silly and transparent that excuse / deflection attempt is.
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Mar 15 2021 02:46pm
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gulags being universally condemned and people pointing out how propaganda has been (and still is) used to fearmonger about the ideas of socialism and communism, by simplistically equating them with an authoritarian regime, are not mutually exclusive, you know? that's only a contradiction if you really bought into the braindead black and white narratives of such propagandists.

anyway, that meme made absolutely no comment on the overall desirability of living under a certain regime. it merely highlights how insane america's prison population is - so much so that one could easily assume the numbers describe one of the worst examples of systemic incarceration one could think of, rather than a country that brands itself as the "land of the free", lol.

anyone who thinks the point is to glorify stalin's genocidal authoritarian rule is either stupidly overinterpreting the obvious message, or dishonestly trying to deflect from the real and present issue highlighted.

am i surprised to see someone, who uncritically bought into the victimhood narrative surrounding piers fucking morgan, to frame it that way? hardly, but it's still a bit disappointing, as i hoped that with a bit of a hint in the right direction, you'd be able to realise how silly and transparent that excuse / deflection attempt is.


I found it, you frequent r political humour dont you
Im more of a not the onion guy
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Mar 15 2021 03:05pm
Quote (duffman316 @ 15 Mar 2021 21:46)
I found it, you frequent r political humour dont you
Im more of a not the onion guy


i find you're more of a r/dodge guy. again, your assumption that the meme was trying to downplay stalin's crimes, rather than highlight a current issue with america's prison and justice system, is asinine at best.
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Mar 15 2021 03:16pm
fender trying to fight everyone again. what is it with miserable little people from dresden/prussia and this sort of behavior. least this round it wont result in an empire or reich starting another World War that we will have to finish
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Mar 15 2021 03:18pm
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fender trying to fight everyone again. what is it with miserable little people from dresden/prussia and this sort of behavior. least this round it wont result in an empire or reich starting another World War that we will have to finish



The radical left has been doing this ever since Karl Marx. It seems to be some sort of mental sickness.
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