Stop dodging and give a straight answer about what you believe on the topic

Are the zygotes/embryoes/fetuses in pregnant adult human females forms of human life or not?

how was that a dodge to your question? you asked if a fetus is considered human life, quoting a post of mine that literally proves my reply.

the only one who's dodging here is you. so again my question: are you comfortable with rape victims being executed for having an abortion? or would that go too far, and imprisoning them for life is enough punishment, duffman316?

Is the fetus Muslim?

That wishy washy response is not a straight answer to a simple question. Are you that much of a coward that you can't own the ugly reality of what an abortion is?

i am convinced that my position of reducing abortions without restricting women's rights is the morally superior one. not particularly difficult compared to someone cruel and extreme enough to charge even rape and incest victims with murder for having an abortion, but still...

i gave you a direct answer to your question, while you dodged mine twice now. again: are you comfortable with rape victims being executed for having an abortion? or would that go too far, and imprisoning them for life is enough punishment, duffman316? don't be such a coward, address the ugly reality of your anti-choice stance.

You're still doing it. Im not asking about moral superiority.

I'm asking you to explicitly acknowledge that abortion is essentially killing humans lives.

Some high evasion and block on that javazon, duffman might need some AR

Why is reducing the number of abortions morally superior to the status quo or even increasing the number of abortions through greater access? Aren't you implicitly "abortion shaming" people by preferring a smaller amount of abortions?

and i'm just asking you to explicitly acknowledge that your position is cruel, not even effective at saving "human lives", and restricting women's rights.

now don't be such a coward and address the ugly reality of your anti-choice stance: banning abortions will not prevent them (i told you several times which measures are more effective at achieving your alleged goal without making women 2nd class citizens), and you know that - you will just make them unsafer and more expensive (disproportionally hurting poor and minority women). it will traumatise, shame, and punish women for life, more babies will grow up in loveless, destitute, broken families. it will lead to suffering and suicide, desperation and death.

laws should not follow delusional ideals on complicated issues, they should not change society as a whole for the worse just to appease the simplistic takes of naive fundamentalists, and they should especially not do so when they are directly restricting something as important as the right to bodily autonomy for half the population.

Bible testament to, fetus isn't even valuable only used for fidelity testing.


Numbers 5:11-31
New International Version
The Test for an Unfaithful Wife
11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.
16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”