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Mar 9 2021 01:07pm
Quote (Knoppie @ 9 Mar 2021 14:04)
It's a different type of... beer ^^


I'll try to get this more on topic, dunno why i'm posting here ^^

You guys are ok that ppl with a good contentious job are getting the check as well?
I mean.. These checks could be more directed to the ppl that have lost income instead of "everybody" ?


no pretty much everyone agrees that arbitrary income lines are a dumb way to do it. someone who made $1 over the limit their last tax year qualifies for $0 and someone who has been making $60k the entire time gets the full stimulus. far better to direct it to households whose income has suffered as a result of covid

and not “everybody” gets the $1400 out of the promised $2000 check. even less people get it this time

Quote (Santara @ 9 Mar 2021 11:58)
Good beer is against the law in Germany. Got it. Keep calling imperial stouts fruit punches though, while telling me I have no idea what I'm talking about.

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Quote (Surfpunk @ 9 Mar 2021 13:07)
LOL @ thinking an Imperial Stout or an India Pale Ale is a fucking fRuIt PuNcH.

Also LOL @ Germans being stuck with the same four basic bitch ingredients for 500 years.


stout is “fruit punch”
ipa is “fruit punch”
tripel is “fruit punch”
bitter is “fruit punch”
brown ale is “fruit punch”
porter is “fruit punch”
lager is “fruit punch”

wonder who is drinking all the fruit punch given that is all a certain guy/girl keeps talking about. no wonder that user thinks the third reich won WWII. the national socialists being defeated by USA beer and frenchies being defeated by USA cheese really stings a couple misanthropic users here lmao
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Mar 9 2021 01:08pm
Quote (Knoppie @ 9 Mar 2021 20:04)
It's a different type of... beer ^^


I'll try to get this more on topic, dunno why i'm posting here ^^

You guys are ok that ppl with a good contentious job are getting the check as well?
I mean.. These checks could be more directed to the ppl that have lost income instead of "everybody" ?


there's a cap. if you earn upwards of 75k you dont get one.
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Quote (fender @ Mar 9 2021 06:51am)
*whhhooooosh*

here's the crayon version for my slow american friend: i'm saying that some hipsters' list of obscure fruit punches is hardly representative of what someone would typically call american beer.

i'm absolutely convinced that the guys who made that list really enjoyed their drink, and probably told everyone they met in their lives how much they are into craft beer from local microbreweries - and ofc you're free to assume that american beer therefore just has to be the best, even though you probably never had a single one of those on that list. all i'm saying is that this is not what people associate with american beer, or americans' taste in beer for that matter.

bland and stale light 'beer', real pisswater, is what most of you consume - and that's totally fine with me, to each their own. all i'm saying is don't delude yourself too much just because you found a list that rated a specific batch from a local festival in bumfuck ohio back in 2012 super highly, lol...


While you're correct that many Americans drink pisswater, ACTUAL beer enthusiasts won't go near that shit. Americans make some excellent beers at the local level and they've become popular enough that the big corps are buying the brands. For example, Ballast Point was purchased by Constellation brands for a billion dollars 4 years ago. Microbrews account for about 20% of the volume now and continues to grow. The world is changing!

Like wine, there are many, many types of beer and I believe that there is a wine and beer out there for everyone. Personally, I'm a fan of bold, dark beers with a minimum of 10% ABV.
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Mar 9 2021 01:11pm
Quote (excellence @ Mar 9 2021 08:07pm)
no pretty much everyone agrees that arbitrary income lines are a dumb way to do it. someone who made $1 over the limit their last tax year qualifies for $0 and someone who has been making $60k the entire time gets the full stimulus. far better to direct it to households whose income has suffered as a result of covid

and not “everybody” gets the $1400 out of the promised $2000 check. even less people get it this time





stout is “fruit punch”
ipa is “fruit punch”
tripel is “fruit punch”
bitter is “fruit punch”
brown ale is “fruit punch”
porter is “fruit punch”
lager is “fruit punch”

wonder who is drinking all the fruit punch given that is all a certain guy/girl keeps talking about. no wonder that user thinks the third reich won WWII. the national socialists being defeated by USA beer and frenchies being defeated by USA cheese really stings a couple misanthropic users here lmao


I mean. I still have my job, same income (slightly higher), would be qualified to get a check right? I wouldn't understand why?
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Mar 9 2021 01:12pm
Quote (Knoppie @ 9 Mar 2021 14:11)
I mean. I still have my job, same income (slightly higher), would be qualified to get a check right? I wouldn't understand why?

if youre under the income cap yes you’d qualify. no one understands why. id say we could go ask the people who wrote this crap, but Washington DC is occupied by the military right now
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Mar 9 2021 01:14pm
Quote (excellence @ Mar 9 2021 08:12pm)
if youre under the income cap yes you’d qualify. no one understands why. id say we could go ask the people who wrote this crap, but Washington DC is occupied by the military right now


Would it be too difficult to compensate for lost income last year and give more to those who need it ? (combined with the cap income? )

/e let's say: If my income last year in the month, is the same as it is now (on average), my check goes to someone who needs it.. "they get double."

This post was edited by Knoppie on Mar 9 2021 01:19pm
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Would it be too difficult to compensate for lost income last year and give more to those who need it ? (combined with the cap income? )

/e let's say: If my income last year is the same as it is now, my check goes to someone who needs it.. they get double.

it probably isnt too difficult but no one is giving up “free money”. best you can get is family sharing it or people donating to charity
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Mar 9 2021 01:20pm
Quote (excellence @ Mar 9 2021 08:19pm)
it probably isnt too difficult but no one is giving up “free money”. best you can get is family sharing it or people donating to charity


The money comes through regulation.. I'm arguing it could be more directed to those who need it through regulation.

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Mar 9 2021 01:25pm
Quote (Knoppie @ 9 Mar 2021 14:20)
The money comes through regulation.. I'm arguing it could be more directed to those who need it through regulation.

the government didnt write the stimulus package that way. it would require them analyzing everyone’s mandatory tax contributions from their paychecks. they are not going to do that even though they should and people would revolt if they changed terms and conditions now
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Mar 9 2021 01:30pm
Quote (thundercock @ 9 Mar 2021 20:08)
While you're correct that many Americans drink pisswater, ACTUAL beer enthusiasts won't go near that shit. Americans make some excellent beers at the local level and they've become popular enough that the big corps are buying the brands. For example, Ballast Point was purchased by Constellation brands for a billion dollars 4 years ago. Microbrews account for about 20% of the volume now and continues to grow. The world is changing!

Like wine, there are many, many types of beer and I believe that there is a wine and beer out there for everyone. Personally, I'm a fan of bold, dark beers with a minimum of 10% ABV.


that's a completely reasonable argument and a rational take on the topic. claiming 'american beer is superior, and here is a list of some people's favourite fruit punches to prove that', however, is stupid and deserves to be mocked.

while my own go to are two or three brands of pilsner, i do love me a nice irish stout from time to time, or a wheat in the summer. not the biggest fan of most of the current fads, like IPAs and helles here in germany, or flavoured beers, but by and large i'd be shocked if they weren't 'better' beers than the typical american beer, and i'd be even more shocked if there weren't brewers in america able to produce high quality products of that kind.

again, i'm not the one who made the claim of superiority, lol. wine is a perfect analogy though. i live in one of germany's main wine regions, and there are some downright excellent wines produced right around the corner from me, some of international award winning quality in fact. i'd never claim that german wine is superior to french or italian wine in general though, that'd be silly. i know there are some amazing wines from some non-traditional regions like california, south africa, nzl, australia, but this weird obsession with declaring 'your' stuff the best, based on a tiny, cherry-picked sample size, is just dumb imo.

This post was edited by fender on Mar 9 2021 01:33pm
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