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Quote (Forg0tten @ Dec 29 2020 03:19am)
So your evidence hinges on the scrutinization of those medical professionals that end up on TV. In just moments of this discussion I have an uncontrollable desire to do Picard's double facepalm already -_-

Masks are not there to stop the effect of aerosolic infection, they are there to lower the risk of droplet infection. Perhaps you should do your MEDICAL RESEARCH instead of reading facebook discussions about how a viral particle can go through masks and are therefore unable to lower the risk of infection. It is simply not true and it has been proven in research. Biological plausibility as the sole argument of why something would not work does not overthrow empirical evidence obtained through rigorous testing, lengthy biostatistical analysis and peer-reviewed discussion and interpretation. You need to pick up a book on how research works, and you need to do it yesterday -_-

Say something lengthy and boring to have the last word. I am not going to entertain this discussion any further.
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dont give me the bullchit you do research. making bullchit claims and finish it with some laser crab flat earth meme trying to red herring your way out

with the pumping action of breathing your gong to suk and blow that water droplet right through that mask right along with the cootie109 riding along with in it. masks are treated with some kind of water resistance try it some time drop some water on it they dont absorb moisture,

the actual data shows that mask mandates increase infection rate. No one really knows why but thats the science of it.

In the meantime the cootie19 floats through the mask. The mask is a great place for all other germ accumulation. All kinds of bacteria and molds accumulate on the mask and mask wearing people breath through all that. Breathing on their little babies providing for them a perfect habitat moist and shaded area. Every mask wearer a carrier of their own little germ colony. Every time i see a mask wearer like in the grocery store i one just wonders when was the last time that person took a dump and touched that mask again. ........................its gross
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Dec 29 2020 07:19am
Liang, M., Gao, L., Cheng, C., Zhou, Q., Uy, J. P., Heiner, K., & Sun, C. (2020). Efficacy of face mask in preventing respiratory virus transmission: A systematic review and meta-analysis. Travel medicine and infectious disease, 36, 101751. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.tmaid.2020.101751

Chu DK, Akl EA, Duda S, Solo K, Yaacoub S, Schünemann HJ; COVID-19 Systematic Urgent Review Group Effort (SURGE) study authors. Physical distancing, face masks, and eye protection to prevent person-to-person transmission of SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19: a systematic review and meta-analysis. Lancet. 2020 Jun 27;395(10242):1973-1987. doi: 10.1016/S0140-6736(20)31142-9. Epub 2020 Jun 1. PMID: 32497510; PMCID: PMC7263814.

Abboah-Offei, M., Salifu, Y., Adewale, B., Bayuo, J., Ofosu-Poku, R., & Opare-Lokko, E. (2021). A rapid review of the use of face mask in preventing the spread of COVID-19. International journal of nursing studies advances, 3, 100013. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ijnsa.2020.100013

MacIntyre CR, Chughtai AA. A rapid systematic review of the efficacy of face masks and respirators against coronaviruses and other respiratory transmissible viruses for the community, healthcare workers and sick patients. Int J Nurs Stud. 2020 Aug;108:103629. doi: 10.1016/j.ijnurstu.2020.103629. Epub 2020 Apr 30. PMID: 32512240; PMCID: PMC7191274.

I have no idea what you mean. You just think 1+1 sums up to 2 and draw your conclusions. The masks are recommended to be used for x hours and then replaced. Some masks are washable and there are instructions out there as to how you can do that. If you are arguing incorrect use of face masks, that's something else. But to claim that they are intrinsically flawed, the evidence is just stacked against that assumption. You're dead wrong there. I can't even begin to understand how you do not see that. Masks work, intrinsically speaking. This is sheer and utter fact, regardless of your biological explanations of how they may not work. In the end, the evidence has shown that they work. That doesn't mean that you are inheritly wrong with your biological explanation (though I suspect that you are), but the end net result is that they reduce infectivity and it's as simple as that. You clearly don't have the background to fully comprehend the efficacy, working mechanism and how a net result is procured and reported. Therefore, you are not the one who should argue against the use of face masks. The best you can do is lobby for additional evidence regarding the efficacy of face masks, provided by an unaffiliated third party. That would be correct, in fact, I would commend you for it because even when a minority requests the investigation of a wrong hypothesis, it helps us sharpen our understanding of the subject as well as gives us insight in what the public (or in this case the minority that requests said research) understands of the subject. People like you spouting around and about all sorts of bullshit tell the medical and political world that they have failed in properly educating you and properly helping you understand why these things are necessary.

Sorry, I got back on my word to gave you the last word. I just can't help pointing out how incredibly wrong you are with your conclusion. Do you also call Trump a genetically black democrat by any chance? :|


/e I assume, but do tell me if I'm wrong, that your "masks increase infectivity" statement is derived from watching infection rates go up shortly after the mask mandate was given. That is not how epidemiology works. Please pick up a book on epidemiology. "Post hoc ergor propter hoc", I think you are wrongfully attributing causality to the mandate. It is not because there is a temporality in the matter that thus all other causal criteria are instantly met, and even if they are, it's still open to discussion because causality can never truly be proven, the truth in that subject can only be approached. This is an intrinsic to the definition of causality.

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Dec 29 2020 07:34am
"The masks are recommended to be used for x hours and then replaced."
who is arguing that???????
who is actually doing that???????
they dont care about that????????
you dont do that either?????????
they only care that your face is wrapped they dont care what or how its wrapped
there have never been any studies of long term mask wearing od anything like this


its not about covid its about something else

"Sorry, I got back on my word to gave you the last word. I just can't help pointing out how incredibly wrong you are with your conclusion."
(you can stuff that you already said you wont look at any thing i post)

"Do you also call Trump a genetically black democrat by any chance? :|"
( so the truth comes out like it always does. your infected with TDS. Now i can stop reading anything you post)
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Dec 29 2020 10:20am
bad enough the whole thing is a scam make it worse hanging a rag on ones face

FACE MASKS DON'T WORK - DR. PAM POPPER
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Dec 29 2020 10:30am
i invented today a way to wear a mask, without it touching my face.
i just hang it on my glasses instead of my ears

since i needed to wear one with a 4hour train ride.

feels good to troll hard, and bend the law
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Dec 29 2020 10:39am
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i invented today a way to wear a mask, without it touching my face.
i just hang it on my glasses instead of my ears

since i needed to wear one with a 4hour train ride.

feels good to troll hard, and bend the law


they just want the face covered covering humanity
they dont care what its with
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Dec 29 2020 11:04am
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science can be simple. what is the average size of a corona virus? and what is the size of the holes in the mask that enable you to breath??


What is the average size of an oxygen or carbon dioxide molecule? Answer that, then tell me how masks block those from getting through.
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Dec 29 2020 01:38pm
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What is the average size of an oxygen or carbon dioxide molecule? Answer that, then tell me how masks block those from getting through.


dont know who made that claim but it wasnt me
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NEW JERSEY'S CORRUPT GOVERNOR GETS SERVED BY THE CITIZENS FOR HIS TYRANNICAL COVID MANDATES
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I had to wear a mask to visit this thread...
americans are indeed dumb lol
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