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Jun 4 2020 12:37pm
Quote (Skinned @ Jun 4 2020 11:32am)
William Bryan told investigators he heard Travis McMichael use a racial epithet after fatally shooting Ahmaud Arbery in Glynn County, a Georgia Bureau of Investigation agent testified Thursday during preliminary hearings.

Bryan told police McMichael said "f***ing n***er" after three blasts from McMichael's shotgun left Arbery dead in February the streets of the Satilla Shores neighborhood, Assistant Special Agent in Charge Richard Dial said. Body camera footage also showed a Confederate flag sticker on the toolbox of McMichael's truck, Dial said.


The allegations came as Dial outlined the events that led to Arbery's death and told the court that before Arbery was shot, the three men charged in his murder engaged in an elaborate chase, hitting the 25-year-old jogger with a truck as he repeatedly tried to avoid them.
Asked if he believed Travis McMichael could've been acting in self-defense, Dial said the opposite was true.
"I believe Mr. Arbery was being pursued, and he ran till he couldn't run anymore, and it was turn his back to a man with a shotgun or fight with his bare hands against the man with the shotgun. He chose to fight. ... I believe Mr. Arbery's decision was to just try to get away, and when he felt like he could not escape he chose to fight."


Saying "fucking nigger" and having a Confederate flag sticker doesn't mean that they chased him due to his race. They were merely trying to save their community from violent, deranged thieves!
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Jun 4 2020 12:40pm
Calling someone a nigger is just heritage, not hate. Why do these liberals hate our freedoms and heritage so much? If they take away our essential and God-given liberty to lynch the negros our Constitution is dead.
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Jun 4 2020 12:59pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ May 22 2020 11:05pm)
I agree, I don't fully understand how the cameraman could be charged with murder here. Unless he knew McMichaels planned to kill Arbery and was someone in on it, which I sincerely doubt. Perhaps an accessory to murder? I'm not sure, I am not a lawyer.

Responding to previous statements and opinions you have expressed in this thread, though, I do not see a strong case for self-defense for McMichaels here. McMichaels appeared to be chasing Arbery (and not the other way around) and placed himself in Arbery's path, directly initiating contact and confrontation.


It will specifically depend on the laws on the books in Georgia, but generally self defense requires that you 1) didn't initiate the contact and 2) attempted to retreat. I don't see any reasonable way the McMichaels can claim self defense even if Arbery reached for their guns, no matter how violently he reached.
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