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Mar 7 2020 12:47pm
Quote (Ghot @ 7 Mar 2020 19:33)
Well that's how I want to look at death rates. JUST saying the US has 17 deaths and France has only 11 deaths is not really an accurate representation.
I have to give you credit for noticing that it's actually a tad shy of an order of magnitude, though. :)




/e

CV death percentage in the US... 4.857142857142857e-8
CV death percentage in France... 1.641791044776119e-7


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Mar 7 2020 12:49pm
Quote (Testiclese @ Mar 7 2020 01:44pm)
Yes, because all 325 million US residents and all 67 million French residents have contracted the coronavirus, so making a comparison across their entire population is an effective calculation.




My comparison is for comparing medical systems. Aka free and not free. The medical systems have nothing to do with "contracting" the disease.
The percentages of deaths on the other hand, are indicative of the quality of the medical systems in place.


/e Whether or not people in each country "contract" the CV, is more indicative of travel, quaratine and border policies.

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My comparison is for comparing medical systems. Aka free and not free. The medical systems have nothing to do with "contracting" the disease.
The percentages of deaths on the other hand, are indicative of the quality of the medical systems in place.


/e Whether or not people in each country "contract" the CV, is more indicative of travel and border policies.




So? Do you realise your are one of the only country in this situation?
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Mar 7 2020 01:54pm)
https://i.imgur.com/eWiw1qC.jpg

So? Do you realise your are one of the only country in this situation?




Let's see.


I DO realize that the US has better water treatment, better sewage treatment. We also have the CDC and the FDA who don't really CARE how Americans feel about bills and work.

Big pharma is involved as well. While in normal times, big pharma can be a royal pain in the ass... during crisis times, big pharma can do more in a day than most other countries can do in a month.



/e No matter how you slice it... during any pandemic, I'd rather be in the US than anywhere else.

/ee The US is also far more self sufficient in general, than just about any other country. In all the world, the US has one of the lowest population densities as well. Only other comparable countries would be... Canada, Australia, Russia... population density wise.



/eee ALL of which puts the US in a position to survive a pandemic, better than just about anywhere else.

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Quote (Ghot @ 7 Mar 2020 20:01)
Let's see.


I DO realize that the US has better water treatment, better sewage treatment. We also have the CDC and the FDA who don't really CARE how Americans feel about bills and work.

Big pharma is involved as well. While in normal times, big pharma can be a royal pain in the ass... during crisis times, big pharma can do more in a day than most other countries can do in a month.



/e No matter how you slice it... during any pandemic, I'd rather be in the US than anywhere else.


you mean all those institutions that trump actively defunded, all the protections he lifted to benefit his buddies in various industries?
it's hilarious you would say that, considering how low food and water standards are in america, compared to the EU for example. you really don't know anything, do you?
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you mean all those institutions that trump actively defunded, all the protections he lifted to benefit his buddies in various industries?
it's hilarious you would say that, considering how low food and water standards are in america, compared to the EU for example. you really don't know anything, do you?




If the CV gets seriously out of hand, there are for example...very few countries that could feed themselves for any extended period.
See my further edits above.
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Quote (Ghot @ 7 Mar 2020 20:18)
If the CV gets seriously out of hand, there are for example...very few countries that could feed themselves for any extended period.
See my further edits above.


i see, since your previous points were refuted completely, you're creating an imaginary doomsday scenario, that not even the worst case predictions in regards to covid-19 come close to, desperately trying to deflect from the fact that america's response to a potential pandemic was directly and severely undermined by the actions of your cult leader...
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Quote (Ghot @ 7 Mar 2020 20:18)
If the CV gets seriously out of hand, there are for example...very few countries that could feed themselves for any extended period.
See my further edits above.


Sorry to ruin your freedom but what is your argument against the 60 millions people who would not report their case and even spread the virus because they can't pay a doct or are afraid of losing their job?

This is interesting because it's the same "poor" people with lower hygiene standards, talking public transports, with a harsh job(s) even multiple job(s) implicating contaminate multiple places etc...

Fascinating.

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Quote (Ghot @ Mar 7 2020 10:49am)
My comparison is for comparing medical systems. Aka free and not free. The medical systems have nothing to do with "contracting" the disease.
The percentages of deaths on the other hand, are indicative of the quality of the medical systems in place.


/e Whether or not people in each country "contract" the CV, is more indicative of travel, quaratine and border policies.


Shouldn't you compare the ratio of people who die to the people who GET it?
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Mar 7 2020 02:29pm)
Sorry to ruin your freedom but what is your argument against the 60 millions people who would not report their case and even spread the virus because they can't pay a doct or are afraid of losing their job?

This is interesting because it's the same "poor" people with lower hygiene standards, talking public transports, with a harsh job(s) even multiple job(s) implicating contaminate multiple places etc...

Fascinating.



Scenario... CV hits the US and is seriously bad.

The CDC would just shut down a business where people became infected, quarantine the whole place and treat everyone. What the people involved wanted... would NOT be a factor.

This debate is pointless. The US can feed itself, supply it's own energy requirements, and has the military required to enforce the govts. decisions.
If necessary we can also lock down our borders completely.




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Quote (thundercock @ Mar 7 2020 02:51pm)
Shouldn't you compare the ratio of people who die to the people who GET it?


post #442.

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