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If I find a fault in the quran that cannot be explained logically I will leave it if I cannot find an answer. That's the only logical thing to do. I am not a guy who believes in religion on blind faith. I have read the quran and the bible and the torah. Out of the 3 the quran was the only one I found that seemed it had none mistakes. The bible I was just like what? they just said this and now they are talking about this? how is jesus crucified when he himself said the only sign I will give you is the sign of jonah and if jona was alive so was jesus in the grave which means he wasn't crucified. I can point out so manny more and please point some out in the quran I will answer to them.

And it just doesn't make sense to me to believe in the bible. Half of it is now a man made book half of it was probably the word of god. How can you believe in such a thing.

This post was edited by SecondGear on Aug 19 2012 03:54pm

...I have read enough of the koran to recognize writing patterns and styles employed only by Jewish scribes of the time to ever believe it was miraculously written by an illiterate warlord .

So you know arabic?

...nope , and neither do most of the American muslims I know who read it in an English translation . What's next , they're not real muslims if they don't understand arabic ?

This post was edited by WidowMaKer_MK on Aug 19 2012 04:05pm

Strong drink and ... are only an infamy of Satan's handiwork. [5:90, also 2:219]. Yet on the other hand in Paradise are rivers of wine [47:15, also 83:22,25]. How does Satan's handiwork get into Paradise?

heres one for ya...need more? np really

This one is still very relavent in the world today against the people of the book but yet is somehow forgotten because it isnt convenient
( hating jews is cool i guess )

The Qur'an declares that everyone will be held responsible only for his own sins [S. 17:13-15, 53:38-42]. Yet, the Qur'an accuses the Jews of Muhammad's day for the sins committed some 2000 years earlier by other Jews, e.g. worshipping the Golden Calf idol

Was going to address this,,but you seem to have it covered.

To say that one cannot fully understand the Quran because they do not read classical Arabic is to say that those words cannot be interpreted
at all in any other language then a ancient Arabic that is not even spoken anymore.

Do you really want to go here? Some might say this is cherry picking but you asked for examples, I am providing them, I do not think just because some books have flaws in them it means they are bs, Mamy books are written by Man and as such through years are inherently flawed, if you understand and recieve the message then the book was successful. Through Arrogance people think they are perfect. Man is not Perfect neither is anything he creates.

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"



Mohammed waged offensive wars and although he never killed anyone it doesnt mean he was not directly responsible for many deaths.
In that case you could argue Hitler was not responsible as he did not kill anyone either.

...I seem to remember that mohammad once killed a man while in a drunken stupor and afterward declared alcohol was off limits for all his followers . I'm not exactly sure if this is in the koran or it's just a fable passed down through the years .

Lets see if SecondGear honors his word.

The rivers of wine thing was especially slamming.