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Quote (Crunkt @ Oct 16 2023 12:05pm)
i love how these clowns are using the same defense as Turmp is. Like literally no maga apologist makes a legit argument.


I've think it's pretty funny. I've learned a lot about the case in the last week and they're still repeating the same debunked talking points.

Because it isn't about facts. It's about the tribe
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Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 16 2023 06:18pm)
Again, I'm just asking you to look at your own arguments and beliefs and see if they contradict the plain facts and logic in front of you. Trying to argue Mar a Lago is worth $18-27 million is like trying to argue the moon landing was faked and the proof was foretold in ancient egyptian hieroglyphics. Its the kind of shit that seperates sane arguments from pointless nonsense. For me to point out MAL could be sold off to developers and chopped up for parcels- as is specifically allowed for in the use agreement- zoned as residential instead of clubs and easily be worth hundreds of millions while voiding its historical and cultural significance- thats like arguing the flag had unmoving ripples when not fully unfolded not from a wind. The issue is the premise of why Id need to make such an argument in the first place.

I could point out the use agreement is to give it extra rights as a commercial club in a residential area, above normal residential zoning and at any time can be reverted to residential at the loss of those club benefits, and this the use agreement cant possibly be treated as a net negative valuation, let alone a factor of 1:20 or 1:50 of its real value. But again, its like saying that Alex Jone's protein powers wont cure your son of a case of the gays. Its the premise


Pure nonsense, he was NEVER GRANTED approval to be anything but a club then he signed away the rights for the land to be anything but what it is for a significant tax break, this can not be walked back, why are you lying?

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Pure nonsense, he was NEVER GRANTED approval to be anything but a club then he signed away the rights for the land to be anything but what it is for a significant tax break, this can not be walked back, why are you lying?


You don't get land use agreements to get approval for single family residential zoning or the right to sell property to developers, that's the baseline of land use, you get agreements to develop them into stuff like commercial use clubs. It says, right in the use agreement from 20+ years ago, that if the club fell into abeyance of being used as a club- or at any point if the owner wanted- it would revert automatically to residential zoning. Its right in the text of the agreement



What kind of absolutely dystopian liberal nightmare would you have to be living in to get state, local and federal approval to zone your residential lot as single family housing or have the right to sell and develop it as single family housing? Need a form 27B-6?



This is all very relevant if we were discussing the value of Mar a Lago as an intact club property with revenues and historical/cultural importance, because you couldn't just develop chunks or use it as a dual private/commercial residence and live at it all year long under the current agreement, sure. But we have been for several replies in the chain talking about the baseline of "bulldoze the entire lot, slice it up into single family homes and sell them off to to developers at the market rate of nearby properties" which would still obviously be worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

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I've think it's pretty funny. I've learned a lot about the case in the last week and they're still repeating the same debunked talking points.

Because it isn't about facts. It's about the tribe


My absolute favourite is the accounting firm

"Judge, Trumps accounting firm said the data they got from Trump was unreliable... So how are you going to believe anything? The data is unreliable, the case should be dismissed"
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Quote (Goomshill @ 16 Oct 2023 22:08)
You don't get land use agreements to get approval for single family residential zoning or the right to sell property to developers, that's the baseline of land use, you get agreements to develop them into stuff like commercial use clubs. It says, right in the use agreement from 20+ years ago, that if the club fell into abeyance of being used as a club- or at any point if the owner wanted- it would revert automatically to residential zoning. Its right in the text of the agreement

https://i.imgur.com/LI88TEa.jpg

What kind of absolutely dystopian liberal nightmare would you have to be living in to get state, local and federal approval to zone your residential lot as single family housing or have the right to sell and develop it as single family housing? Need a form 27B-6?


did you just do 5 hours of research to try to own the libs?
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Oct 16 2023 08:13pm
Quote (Crunkt @ Oct 16 2023 09:09pm)
did you just do 5 hours of research to try to own the libs?


I read that agreement months ago. I even specifically referenced it in the last two posts;

Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 16 2023 02:23am)
The use agreement literally says it reverts to residential zoning if its disused as a club


Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 16 2023 02:18am)
Again, I'm just asking you to look at your own arguments and beliefs and see if they contradict the plain facts and logic in front of you. Trying to argue Mar a Lago is worth $18-27 million is like trying to argue the moon landing was faked and the proof was foretold in ancient egyptian hieroglyphics. Its the kind of shit that seperates sane arguments from pointless nonsense. For me to point out MAL could be sold off to developers and chopped up for parcels- as is specifically allowed for in the use agreement- zoned as residential instead of clubs and easily be worth hundreds of millions while voiding its historical and cultural significance- thats like arguing the flag had unmoving ripples when not fully unfolded not from a wind. The issue is the premise of why Id need to make such an argument in the first place.

I could point out the use agreement is to give it extra rights as a commercial club in a residential area, above normal residential zoning and at any time can be reverted to residential at the loss of those club benefits, and this the use agreement cant possibly be treated as a net negative valuation, let alone a factor of 1:20 or 1:50 of its real value. But again, its like saying that Alex Jone's protein powers wont cure your son of a case of the gays. Its the premise


All I did was spoonfeed it to people who apparently never took the time to actually read the thing they're posting about. Its right there top result on google, as joe biden says, c'mon man
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Oct 16 2023 09:47pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 17 2023 01:08pm)
You don't get land use agreements to get approval for single family residential zoning or the right to sell property to developers, that's the baseline of land use, you get agreements to develop them into stuff like commercial use clubs. It says, right in the use agreement from 20+ years ago, that if the club fell into abeyance of being used as a club- or at any point if the owner wanted- it would revert automatically to residential zoning. Its right in the text of the agreement

https://i.imgur.com/LI88TEa.jpg

What kind of absolutely dystopian liberal nightmare would you have to be living in to get state, local and federal approval to zone your residential lot as single family housing or have the right to sell and develop it as single family housing? Need a form 27B-6?



This is all very relevant if we were discussing the value of Mar a Lago as an intact club property with revenues and historical/cultural importance, because you couldn't just develop chunks or use it as a dual private/commercial residence and live at it all year long under the current agreement, sure. But we have been for several replies in the chain talking about the baseline of "bulldoze the entire lot, slice it up into single family homes and sell them off to to developers at the market rate of nearby properties" which would still obviously be worth hundreds of millions of dollars.


I mean sure if you miss the part where it says SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE but you didn't miss it, you pretended it wasn't there and hoped no one would point it out, because you are a dishonest person.

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I mean sure if you miss the part where it says SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE but you didn't miss it, you pretended it wasn't there and hoped no one would point it out, because you are a dishonest person.


You can't teach stupid

SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE

Imagine trying to own the libs, digging for hours to find some document, only to have the document you dug up completely dismantle your whole argument :bonk:
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Quote (Plaguefear @ 16 Oct 2023 22:47)
I mean sure if you miss the part where it says SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE but you didn't miss it, you pretended it wasn't there and hoped no one would point it out, because you are a dishonest person.


+1 lol

I can't wait for people like to form a group like BLM that sues Donald Trump for "grabbing them by the psychological pussy" and giving them Trump Derangement Syndrome.

it'd have to be an international settlement for you to get a dollar of Trump's money in that case but you have a better shot at proving you've gone full retard because his "free speech" infringed upon your right to be an idiot and now you can't work anymore because, "Why should I work Donald Trump handicapped me!" "I'm a dumb person who can bash Trump all day on the internet but can't volunteer at a soup kitchen for an hour a month"

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