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Mar 9 2021 10:06am
Quote (Landmine @ Mar 9 2021 07:44am)
Did you make it out of high school?


Are you more mad you membership fee's went to a nark, or they didn't hang Pence?
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Mar 9 2021 10:08am
Quote (bogie160 @ 9 Mar 2021 17:03)
You quoted the president as calling neo-nazis "very fine people". It is clear from the transcript that that is emphatically not what the president said.

If you meant to make some other claim, e.g. that the president did not respond quickly enough, or that he was giving mixed messages, you were of course free to make it. But you chose instead to repeat a debunked conspiracy theory.


you can clutch your pearls and (hopefully just pretend to) be obtuse all you want. the simple fact is that neo-nazis and white supremacists received the message loud and clearly, and rejoiced. same with his days of pretending not to know who david duke is (wink, wink), and all the other dog whistles he made throughout his term. they know what he was saying, i know what he was saying, and i bet even you got the message, so please spare me that pathetic act, it's shameful...
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Mar 9 2021 10:26am
Quote (bogie160 @ 9 Mar 2021 11:03)
You quoted the president as calling neo-nazis "very fine people". It is clear from the transcript that that is emphatically not what the president said.

If you meant to make some other claim, e.g. that the president did not respond quickly enough, or that he was giving mixed messages, you were of course free to make it. But you chose instead to repeat a debunked conspiracy theory.

that user says “debunked to a dozen users”. what like when he said “trump banned cuomo from using the comfort ship for covid patients” and in reality cuomo asked trump and trump said yes go ahead

its funny seeing the anti-intellectual anti-science crowd reject transcripts of actual events because it suits their political desires
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Mar 9 2021 10:38am
Quote (fender @ Mar 9 2021 04:12am)
it sure is fascinating that when confronted with the FACT that a considerable portion of right wingers share nazi ideologies, even wear their flags and symbols, you people only ever reply by strawmanning that as "tHE LeFt cLaImS eVeRYoNe iS a NaZi" implying because that obviously is not the case, the whole issue can therefore be dismissed altogether.


Oh cute! If were saying this sort of stuff, then I can say for a FACT that a "considerable portion" of left wingers share communist ideologies.
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Mar 9 2021 10:46am
Quote (Kuggergug @ 9 Mar 2021 17:38)
Oh cute! If were saying this sort of stuff, then I can say for a FACT that a "considerable portion" of left wingers share communist ideologies.


of course. you're free to make any whataboutism you want, in order to protect your racist allies...

this never was about what you "can" or "can't" say, i'm merely noticing what you choose to not address, what you want to distract and deflect from, what you so desperately try to avoid talking about and acknowledging. that in itself tells me a lot without you saying anything...
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Mar 9 2021 10:47am
Quote (bogie160 @ Mar 9 2021 10:03am)
You quoted the president as calling neo-nazis "very fine people". It is clear from the transcript that that is emphatically not what the president said.

If you meant to make some other claim, e.g. that the president did not respond quickly enough, or that he was giving mixed messages, you were of course free to make it. But you chose instead to repeat a debunked conspiracy theory.


Charlottesville rally happens

Trump says "we condemn violence on many sides"

Trump is criticized for 2 days by Republicans and Democrats alike.

Then you get the very fine people where he said

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Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"

Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."


Except the unite the right rally was explicitly a neo-nazi rally, was organized by white supremacists, all the speakers were white supremacist. There was no "fine people" at that rally. Even Goomshill wouldn't defend this when I pressed him on it lol. That's how ridiculous you are right now. You're defending propaganda that was so explicit Goomshill wouldn't touch it after I posted all the facts.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Mar 9 2021 10:52am
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Charlottesville rally happens

Trump says "we condemn violence on many sides"

Trump is criticized for 2 days by Republicans and Democrats alike.

Trump gives speech saying "very fine people on both sides. Except white supremacists.

Then you get the very fine people where he said



Except the unite the right rally was explicitly a neo-nazi rally, was organized by white supremacists, all the speakers were white supremacist. There was no "fine people" at that rally. Even Goomshill wouldn't defend this when I pressed him on it lol. That's how ridiculous you are right now. You're defending propaganda that was so explicit Goomshill wouldn't touch it after I posted all the facts.


this statement is internally contradicting itself. not all white supremecists are neo nazis, and not everyone at the rally was a neo nazi or white supremicist.

now i wouldnt argue that Trump wasn't dog whistling to his fragile whitey base, including KKK, nazis, and other white supremicists.

but there's difference between dog whistling, with a weak but legitimate out like Trump had, and blatant support of a hate group.

why people call a wink a nazi hand salute idk, it doesnt do anything for a conversation and diverts talks usually. source: this thread.

there were legitimately a lot of bland whiteys who attended, it was a "big event" so of course some will get caught up and show up just to see what the deal is. even if 7/10 attendees were KKK/Neo Nazis trump has that wink of an out.
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Mar 9 2021 10:56am
Quote (fender @ Mar 9 2021 08:46am)
of course. you're free to make any whataboutism you want, in order to protect your racist allies...

this never was about what you "can" or "can't" say, i'm merely noticing what you choose to not address, what you want to distract and deflect from, what you so desperately try to avoid talking about and acknowledging. that in itself tells me a lot without you saying anything...


Well there it is. He thinks he can make whatever bananas comment he wants and if people challenge him, he calls people racist. LOL.
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Mar 9 2021 11:01am
Quote (Kuggergug @ Mar 9 2021 10:56am)
Well there it is. He thinks he can make whatever bananas comment he wants and if people challenge him, he calls people racist. LOL.


welcome to engaging with Fender. if u say something he doesnt like you're either a racist or if you're lucky just a racism apologist.

dude has zero other moves.
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Mar 9 2021 11:03am
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 9 2021 09:01am)
welcome to engaging with Fender. if u say something he doesnt like you're either a racist or if you're lucky just a racism apologist.

dude has zero other moves.



I picture him with glowing eyes he is so woke.
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