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Nov 10 2020 03:41pm
Quote (Jere @ 10 Nov 2020 16:37)
My idea here is that Trump was winning by a bigger margin than expected, which is why they "stopped counting" and then all the sudden started counting again in the middle of the night while no auditors were there. This happened in at least two counties that determined 2 swing states. Long story short they had to fabricate more ballots quickly (hence so many with Biden and nothing else marked) to match the numbers they altered in the machine. An audit will find many of these votes invalid votes, so if I've been wrong in all this like a couple people are saying than an audit will determine it.

the stop is suspect, it is a hint at wrongdoing but not proof

software changing votes is a hint again, but not proof

we all knew more mail-in votes would yield more biden votes. we have no historical examples to reference so a healthy level of skepticism is fine by me.

what is a legitimate point is changing methods mid-stream during vote-counting, abandoning chain of custody, vote-counting systems connected to the internet, and having different requirements for voting for different people. none of those things are allowed in our elections, per my understanding. if im wrong someone correct me please and thank you

President Trump’s campaign would be better served worrying about those rather then conspiracy theories.


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Nov 10 2020 03:41pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ 10 Nov 2020 15:40)
Yeah, that's where this fails the Occam's Razor test, IMO. There definitely is a lot of hate/dislike for Trump, but the GOP made additional inroads in the House, kept the Senate from flipping, and gained seats in state legislatures all over. If this were a coordinated campaign to "steAl tHe eLeCtIoN", it seems pretty obvious that those willing to go to that length for the Presidential ticket would have no qualms about doing the same downballot.

I mean, if actual evidence shows up, then by all means, investigate it. But throwing claims of malfeasance all over the place, in an attempt to overwhelm the judicial system with election cases and force the election to Congress, just screams "Boy That Cried Wolf".


They are not claims of malfeasance, there are over 100 sworn statements from election whistle blowers now, and mathamatical improbility written all in the data recovered.
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Nov 10 2020 03:43pm
Quote (Jere @ Nov 10 2020 03:41pm)
They are not claims of malfeasance, there are over 100 sworn statements from election whistle blowers now, and mathamatical improbility written all in the data recovered.


"sWoRn sTaTeMeNtS" without hard evidence backing them mean nothing.
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Nov 10 2020 03:43pm
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the stop is suspect, it is a hint at wrongdoing but not proof

software changing votes is a hint again, but not proof

we all knew more mail-in votes would yield more biden votes. we have no historical examples to reference so a healthy level of skepticism is fine by me.

what is a legitimate point is changing methods mid-stream during vote-counting, abandoning chain of custody, vote-counting systems connected to the internet, and having different requirements for voting for different people. none of those things are allowed in our elections, per my understanding. if im wrong someone correct me please and thank you

President Trump’s campaign would be better served worrying about those rather then conspiracy theories.


In these swing states in question actually the mail-in ballot requests were higher for Republicans than Democrats or 50% as reported by the AP. You are misleading people with that information, it's available even on lefty MSM websites.

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"sWoRn sTaTeMeNtS" without hard evidence backing them mean nothing.


Nope, consult a lawyer because they have all been consulting each other on social media and the consensus is that the sworn statement is valid evidence to investigate.

This post was edited by Jere on Nov 10 2020 03:45pm
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Nov 10 2020 03:44pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ 10 Nov 2020 16:40)
Yeah, that's where this fails the Occam's Razor test, IMO. There definitely is a lot of hate/dislike for Trump, but the GOP made additional inroads in the House, kept the Senate from flipping, and gained seats in state legislatures all over. If this were a coordinated campaign to "steAl tHe eLeCtIoN", it seems pretty obvious that those willing to go to that length for the Presidential ticket would have no qualms about doing the same downballot.

I mean, if actual evidence shows up, then by all means, investigate it. But throwing claims of malfeasance all over the place, in an attempt to overwhelm the judicial system with election cases and force the election to Congress, just screams "Boy That Cried Wolf".

well we have precedent of a 4-year investigation against the President that our 2016 election was compromised. it was such a loose level of suspicion that i worried about the integrity of future elections because it basically allowed investigations based off of shitposting and some random sample of people liking ‘russian’ memes

like imagine if Congress started an investigation based on what we posted here. i post here for fun lol. id be livid if our topics became subject matter for any government process
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Nov 10 2020 03:46pm
Quote (Jere @ 10 Nov 2020 16:43)
In these swing states in question actually the mail-in ballot requests were higher for Republicans than Democrats or 50% as reported by the AP. You are misleading people with that information, it's available even on lefty MSM websites.

biden screamed vote by mail no matter what and trump said vote in person if you can. i said it would yield more biden votes, nothing about voter party split

either way it’s unprecedented so skepticism is completely valid from a statistical standpoint
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Nov 10 2020 03:47pm
Quote (Jere @ Nov 10 2020 04:37pm)
Not meant to mislead you or anything either. Cabinet changes are pretty common at the end of terms, even in Whitehouse history. Although I will give you this, timing is odd simply due to the election results being disputed.


Orderly cabinet changes. Not firing people to appoint conspiracy theorists.
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Nov 10 2020 03:48pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ 10 Nov 2020 16:43)
"sWoRn sTaTeMeNtS" without hard evidence backing them mean nothing.

didnt the Democrats impeach Trump over ‘sworn statements’ and hearsay?
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Nov 10 2020 03:48pm
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Orderly cabinet changes. Not firing people to appoint conspiracy theorists.


Will it still be consipiracy when proven? Will Biden still be the winner to you?

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didnt the Democrats impeach Trump over ‘sworn statements’ and hearsay?


haha.

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Nov 10 2020 03:51pm
Quote (Jere @ Nov 10 2020 03:43pm)
In these swing states in question actually the mail-in ballot requests were higher for Republicans than Democrats or 50% as reported by the AP. You are misleading people with that information, it's available even on lefty MSM websites.


Which states? Because what I'm finding for states that report party registration information, is a strong trend toward Democrats requesting mail-in ballots, and in some states, by a significant margin (PA is 62% D, 26% R, for example). AZ does trend the other direction, but that's also why most sites either didn't call AZ, or thought it was too early to do so (538 comes to mind). Because of the higher R rate of ballot requests.

https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html
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