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Apr 25 2020 08:19am
Quote (Skinned @ 25 Apr 2020 16:15)
I suppose we're shitting all over health care and service industry workers instead of soldiers and children gunned down in schools?

Trying to see the analogy.


Isnt the analogy obvious? Health care and service industry workers must keep working and epxosing themselves to the coronavirus while their employers/the state/the federal government are persistently unable to provide them with enough PPE. Basically, they're expected to sacrifice themselves for the greater good.

That's a high degree of being shit on if you ask me.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 25 2020 08:19am
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Apr 25 2020 08:21am
hm interesting, after pasteur intitude estimating 0.8% mortality rate, in UK there some expert having an estimate of 511k deads from a population of 67.8M meaning 0.75% mortality rate, which is pretty close.

https://www.businessinsider.fr/us/neil-ferguson-transformed-uk-covid-response-oxford-challenge-imperial-model-2020-4?

"Ferguson's team warned Boris Johnson that the quest for "herd immunity" could cost 510,000 lives, prompting an abrupt U-turn."



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Quote (Skinned @ Apr 25 2020 07:15am)
I suppose we're shitting all over health care and service industry workers instead of soldiers and children gunned down in schools?

Trying to see the analogy.


Any time the nation calls someone a "hero", it normalizes any sacrifice they make. "Well of course some of them die, they're heroes. Heroes sacrifice themselves for the greater good, because they're...well...heroes!" It is basically a way for us to feel good that wage slaves who don't have a choice are having to get sick and sometimes die so that we can continue our luxurious consumerist lifestyle. Long live capitalism.
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Apr 25 2020 08:48am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 25 2020 10:19am)
Isnt the analogy obvious? Health care and service industry workers must keep working and epxosing themselves to the coronavirus while their employers/the state/the federal government are persistently unable to provide them with enough PPE. Basically, they're expected to sacrifice themselves for the greater good.

That's a high degree of being shit on if you ask me.


So lack of PPE here is lack of gun control in the analogy? The only time people offer hopes and prayers it is when a bunch of children are murdered.

And yeah, we have a ton of people in droplet plus isolation. Up and up the number goes. We have universal testing on behavioral health, so we are swabbing psychotic people lol. They probly think they're on a fucking spaceship. At least they probly won't remember.

None of the patients on the psych Ward will keep the mask on.

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Quote (chemoshots @ Apr 25 2020 08:18am)
is this $2400 stimulus shit supposed to occur like... sometime during the actual pandemic?
i'm fortunate to not need it, but... i want my fking free money


I got mine April 15th. I usually file my taxes early, I'm thinking it has something to do with that.

Depends on how much money you make too.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Apr 25 2020 09:22am
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Quote (Testiclese @ Apr 25 2020 10:29am)
Any time the nation calls someone a "hero", it normalizes any sacrifice they make. "Well of course some of them die, they're heroes. Heroes sacrifice themselves for the greater good, because they're...well...heroes!" It is basically a way for us to feel good that wage slaves who don't have a choice are having to get sick and sometimes die so that we can continue our luxurious consumerist lifestyle. Long live capitalism.


So they're like our military as well, treat em poorly but pay a lot of lip service. Side note: Honestly I never know what to say when people thank me for my service.


Quote (EndlessSky @ Apr 25 2020 11:22am)
I got mine April 15th. I usually file my taxes early, I'm thinking it has something to do with that.

Depends on how much money you make too.


I got mine the first Monday they were available. I made a post. It was awesome. Donald Trump has given me more of my taxes back than any president. If he keeps this up it will work lol.


Quote (chemoshots @ Apr 25 2020 11:26am)
i don't recall our file date, but it was very early
i just wanna buy a new riding mower and feel like queen pelosi paid for it
is that so much to ask


I got a new chainsaw, paying a deductible on an insurance claim from a storm that dropped a tree through some fences and over the pool, and saving the rest. Wifey ordered lifesized cutouts of Baby Yoda for our greenhouse room. Its hilarious.

I have other trees to remove that i dont want to do myself, too big and leaning over my house, so it will go away and I will need even more Trump/Pelosi dollars.


Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 25 2020 11:28am)
And now, they are singing songs for healthcare workers and praise them to the moon. As soon as the crisis is over, when it comes to paying more in taxes/insurance premiums so that the wages and working conditions in healthcare can be improved, it will be back to "uuuuh, we cant afford that, SoRRyYyY".

It's not a perfect analogy, but the parallels are strong if you ask me. A structural problem that is ignored most of the time, and when shit hits the fan and the problem becomes visible, the public utters hollow words to distract from the fact that they arent willing to tackle it.


I am very lucky to work for a great ministry. They have the gear, they have took early decisive action, and they are even making sure their employees stay whole through this with emergency funding to compliment wages up to $48 an hour for the furloughed. Docs are on contract. They are even offering $50 daily for child care for on site workers, it is an amazing gift they've given us.

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I got mine April 15th. I usually file my taxes early, I'm thinking it has something to do with that.

Depends on how much money you make too.


i don't recall our file date, but it was very early
i just wanna buy a new riding mower and feel like queen pelosi paid for it
is that so much to ask
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Quote (Skinned @ 25 Apr 2020 16:48)
So lack of PPE here is lack of gun control in the analogy? The only time people offer hopes and prayers it is when a bunch of children are murdered.


And now, they are singing songs for healthcare workers and praise them to the moon. As soon as the crisis is over, when it comes to paying more in taxes/insurance premiums so that the wages and working conditions in healthcare can be improved, it will be back to "uuuuh, we cant afford that, SoRRyYyY".

It's not a perfect analogy, but the parallels are strong if you ask me. A structural problem that is ignored most of the time, and when shit hits the fan and the problem becomes visible, the public utters hollow words to distract from the fact that they arent willing to tackle it.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 25 2020 09:29am
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Quote (Skinned @ Apr 25 2020 08:25am)
So they're like our military as well, treat em poorly but pay a lot of lip service. Side note: Honestly I never know what to say when people thank me for my service.


Just nod and look serious. They'll move on with whatever they actually wanted to talk to you about pretty quickly. That's what I do whenever people say shit I don't want to acknowledge.
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Apr 25 2020 11:11am
Quote (Skinned @ Apr 25 2020 09:15am)
I suppose we're shitting all over health care and service industry workers instead of soldiers and children gunned down in schools?

Trying to see the analogy.


Calling them heroes does just as much to actually help them as "thoughts and prayers". We're using catchy tag lines instead of pushing for meaningful help. I think you're just overthinking it.
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