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Sep 13 2023 02:29pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Sep 13 2023 08:53pm)
would you like to write a summery on piltdown man? (you can use wiki as a source for piltdown man. it has been so well documented even wiki wont try to fudge it around)

i am compiling a list of scientific frauds that were designed to promote the idea of 'evolution. the main argument against creation.
shame on you 'atheists for allowing all this corruption

arent 'atheists supposed to be like some kind of super duper higher order. super logical critical thinkers?
instead of just a bunch of lying dirtbags.........


Atheists arent supposed to be anything but people that do not believe the god claim. The rest is only part of your pathetic imagination.
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Sep 13 2023 06:50pm


Quote (Modulok2405 @ Sep 13 2023 01:27pm)
Absolutely. Its a way more reliable spurce than ANY source you ever presented.


not challenging your belief, very unscientific of you
wikipedia are just shills for hire
Astroturf and manipulation of media messages | Sharyl Attkisson | TEDxUniversityofNevada
@03:55 and then there is wikipedia.
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Sep 13 2023 06:51pm
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Sep 13 2023 01:29pm)
Atheists arent supposed to be anything but people that do not believe the god claim. The rest is only part of your pathetic imagination.


sounds like a belief for lazy people

lets do piltdown man 1912
piltdown man is probably the most famous fraud of them all
piltdown man was a fraud that consisted of a human skull and orangutan jaw. the gate keepers (atheists) had it protected from any kind of inquiry and was theeee proof we came from 'monkeys for 40years
after the huxters died off, only then was testing allowed.

the huxters

Group portrait of the Piltdown skull being examined. Back row (from left): F. O. Barlow, G. Elliot Smith, Charles Dawson, Arthur Smith Woodward. Front row: A. S. Underwood, Arthur Keith, W. P. Pycraft, and Ray Lankester. The portrait on the wall is of Charles Darwin. Painting by John Cooke, 1915.

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Quote (TiStuff @ Sep 14 2023 02:51am)
sounds like a belief for lazy people

lets do piltdown man 1912
piltdown man is probably the most famous fraud of them all
piltdown man was a fraud that consisted of a human skull and orangutan jaw. the gate keepers (atheists) had it protected from any kind of inquiry and was theeee proof we came from 'monkeys for 40years
after the huxters died off, only then was testing allowed.

the huxters
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Piltdown_gang_%28dark%29.jpg/350px-Piltdown_gang_%28dark%29.jpg
Group portrait of the Piltdown skull being examined. Back row (from left): F. O. Barlow, G. Elliot Smith, Charles Dawson, Arthur Smith Woodward. Front row: A. S. Underwood, Arthur Keith, W. P. Pycraft, and Ray Lankester. The portrait on the wall is of Charles Darwin. Painting by John Cooke, 1915.


Incredible how much you interpret into this incident*lol

It was a few people not "the atheists" or whatever. Clean before your own door, Christian.
A Christian calling out a fraud and trying to make a big case out of it is absolutely hilarious :lol:
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Sep 13 2023 10:31pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Sep 14 2023 02:50am)
not challenging your belief, very unscientific of you
wikipedia are just shills for hire
Astroturf and manipulation of media messages | Sharyl Attkisson | TEDxUniversityofNevada
@03:55 and then there is wikipedia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bYAQ-ZZtEU


All sources are there dude, thats all I can say. Your rejecting is embarrassing.
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Sep 14 2023 02:47am
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Sep 13 2023 09:31pm)
All sources are there dude, thats all I can say. Your rejecting is embarrassing.


already showed wikipedias reputation i have to out their sources too?

in reference haeckel’s embryo drawings
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But we do, I think, have the right to be both astonished and ashamed by the century of mindless recycling that has led to the persistence of these drawings in a large number, if not a majority, of modern textbooks!
-stephen J gould (atheist 'evolutionist and scientist)



Quote (Modulok2405 @ Sep 13 2023 09:30pm)
Incredible how much you interpret into this incident*lol

It was a few people not "the atheists" or whatever. Clean before your own door, Christian.
A Christian calling out a fraud and trying to make a big case out of it is absolutely hilarious :lol:


accusations with out substance.

next we do nebraska man. would you like to start?
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Sep 14 2023 03:06am
Quote (TiStuff @ Sep 14 2023 10:47am)
already showed wikipedias reputation i have to out their sources too?

in reference haeckel’s embryo drawings





accusations with out substance.

next we do nebraska man. would you like to start?


Listen, religious fraud is nothing i have to point put. It happens DAILY and can watch it live. Just turn on your tv and watch televangelists do their thing.
At least every single religion except for one has to be a fraud by default as well. There is millions of cases of religious fraud.
Call it accusations without substance, look away if you like, I dont care.

Nebraska Man, Pilt Dude, Embryo Drawings and probably many more frauds in - what you would call it - the name of atheism would not stand in any opposition to today's scientific understanding.

That is why no atheist would ever use religious fraud to prove that god isnt real as well. Its not of importance for what anyone here wants to achieve.

God isnt more or less real because of scientific/atheistic fraudsters and Evolution/Science is not more or less real because of religious fraudsters.

It just doesnt matter. People will always lie and deceive. Atheists, Christians, Politicians, Potters, Chefs, Children, Homeless, doesnt matter you name it. People lie. No matter what they are or pretend to be.
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Sep 14 2023 03:38am
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Sep 14 2023 02:06am)
Listen, religious fraud is nothing i have to point put. It happens DAILY and can watch it live. Just turn on your tv and watch televangelists do their thing.
At least every single religion except for one has to be a fraud by default as well. There is millions of cases of religious fraud.
Call it accusations without substance, look away if you like, I dont care.

Nebraska Man, Pilt Dude, Embryo Drawings and probably many more frauds in - what you would call it - the name of atheism would not stand in any opposition to today's scientific understanding.

That is why no atheist would ever use religious fraud to prove that god isnt real as well. Its not of importance for what anyone here wants to achieve.

God isnt more or less real because of scientific/atheistic fraudsters and Evolution/Science is not more or less real because of religious fraudsters.

It just doesnt matter. People will always lie and deceive. Atheists, Christians, Politicians, Potters, Chefs, Children, Homeless, doesnt matter you name it. People lie. No matter what they are or pretend to be.


then perhaps you need to point out some legit stuff?
now
lets ignore your red herrings and get back to the topic.
there are basically two competing world views. special creation or a naturalistic process
I am simply pointing out that since the 'atheists and their monkey religion took over its been a chit show. and shame on 'atheists for not keeping it clean. Has made the institution science a laughing stock. at least as far as 'evolution is concerned. the real question remains and perhaps you will find this to be true
"are there any 'evolution stories that are not fraud?" the competing view to special creation looks to be turning to chit?
we have covered
haeckel’s embryo drawings
piltdown man
next up is nebraska man. would you like to say anything about nebraska man ?
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Quote (TiStuff @ Sep 14 2023 11:38am)
then perhaps you need to point out some legit stuff?
now
lets ignore your red herrings and get back to the topic.
there are basically two competing world views. special creation or a naturalistic process
I am simply pointing out that since the 'atheists and their monkey religion took over its been a chit show. and shame on 'atheists for not keeping it clean. Has made the institution science a laughing stock. at least as far as 'evolution is concerned. the real question remains and perhaps you will find this to be true
"are there any 'evolution stories that are not fraud?" the competing view to special creation looks to be turning to chit?
we have covered
haeckel’s embryo drawings
piltdown man
next up is nebraska man. would you like to say anything about nebraska man ?


I have honestly no idea what you try to tell me.

1. An atheist could theoretically be against the theory of evolution and still be an atheist. Evolution is a biological theory, its not necessarily an atheistic one. There is quite a lot of religious people, a lot of christians, who believe in evolution as well. I am sure there is also scientists that happen to be creationists, so I dont think that those two things are always opposing world views.

Evolution is a theory that is - for the most part - a very scientific one and you can look it up in many ways.
I think its extremely ignorant to believe in the stories of the bible on one hand, which have no scientific background at all, while on the other hand seriously asking if there is any evolutionary science that isnt fraud when so much of it is so well explained and documented.
So much people are working in the field of evolutionary biology and other related fields, a lot of them are also religious and they all do an incredible job and help us all to learn to understand ourselves and the life on our wonderful planet a lot better than ever before.
It is honestly sad to see the disrespect religious people can develop towards hard working scientists who dedicate their lifes in big parts to research and knowledge to help us all to understand the bigger picture a little bit better.

My reason to not believe the claims of gods was never related to the theory of evolution btw. I mean Gid could have created evolution if he was real, so how is that even a topic?
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Quote (Modulok2405 @ Sep 14 2023 03:40am)
I have honestly no idea what you try to tell me.

1. An atheist could theoretically be against the theory of evolution and still be an atheist. Evolution is a biological theory, its not necessarily an atheistic one. There is quite a lot of religious people, a lot of christians, who believe in evolution as well. I am sure there is also scientists that happen to be creationists, so I dont think that those two things are always opposing world views.

Evolution is a theory that is - for the most part - a very scientific one and you can look it up in many ways.
I think its extremely ignorant to believe in the stories of the bible on one hand, which have no scientific background at all, while on the other hand seriously asking if there is any evolutionary science that isnt fraud when so much of it is so well explained and documented.
So much people are working in the field of evolutionary biology and other related fields, a lot of them are also religious and they all do an incredible job and help us all to learn to understand ourselves and the life on our wonderful planet a lot better than ever before.
It is honestly sad to see the disrespect religious people can develop towards hard working scientists who dedicate their lifes in big parts to research and knowledge to help us all to understand the bigger picture a little bit better.

My reason to not believe the claims of gods was never related to the theory of evolution btw. I mean Gid could have created evolution if he was real, so how is that even a topic?


at the end of the day there are two competing views. special creation or naturalistic
i am reviewing the progress or lack of 'naturalistic explanation.
what have you learned about nebraska man?
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