1. Which lie? Could you be more specific?

2. I dont need an argument challenging the biblical creation model, although thousands of arguments, hard facts and evidence exist to destroy that particular claim because of the earths proven age which isnt 6000 years*lol
The reason why I wouldnt need an argument against it anyways is that there is no argument supporting it. Divine creation is nothing but a claim. That claim needs to be proven or at least supported by evidence.
Disproving claims is not a thing, proving claims is.

This post was edited by Modulok2405 on Sep 12 2023 08:13am

1. 'evolutionary fraud. i would start the story with Ernst Haeckel's 1874 embryo drawings

2. then why are you arguing about it?
age of the earth based on the assumption of starting conditions.
yes creation model is a claim
yes naturalistic model and 'evolution is a claim
evidence is were are here
you claim to be an 'atheist prove atheism is a reasonable claim


ya it is

1. No idea who that Haeckel dude is, but if it was 1874, then what does that have to do with the state of science in 2023? Science isnt a religion. Science evolves instead of standing still.

2. Evolution is not just a claim, its a scientific theory. Come back to me whenever divine creation reaches that status.

3.Atheism isnt a claim. Its just a word. People invented that word and a few other words to label people that do not believe the unreasonable claims religions make.

I can only speak for myself, but in my opinion no person can make the claim of god's existence or non-existence and expect to be taken seriously.
If you claim that god exists, you either prove it or you are an idiot.
If you claim god does not exist, you either prove it or you are an idiot.

What I say is, I do not believe any god claims, cause there is no reason for it.
Same goes for a lot of other things as well.

I do not believe that god exists, I do not believe Bigfoot, Mothman and Nessie exist. Believing those things is totally unreasonable and that is why I dont believe them.

What I dont say is:

Those things do not exist. I never claim stuff I cant prove and you shouldnt either.

This post was edited by Modulok2405 on Sep 12 2023 09:21am

wow dude seriously?? i said its were it begins
see see see look look look 1. 'evolutionary fraud. i would start the story with Ernst Haeckel's 1874 embryo drawings

typical 'atheist cheese play............ read the rest of it later

It's a frauuuud ? Lefties fraauuuud ?

Evolution is not a story, its a theorie - but God is just a story.

Never heard of Heackel. If he was a fraud, I dont think its important to know his name. Do you know how much religious fraudsters existed and still exist? Its millions. You know them all?

the bible says homo erectus was burned for trying to kill people via evil monkey business. just ask the monkeys on the typewriters.

homo erectus and sodom were punished for their purely evil monkey business. just ask the monkeys on type writers.

This post was edited by lodd222 on Sep 12 2023 01:01pm

like i said "1. 'evolutionary fraud. i would start the story with Ernst Haeckel's 1874 embryo drawings" its just were the 'athesit fraud story starts. now i remember though. havent we already concluded your just a smatheist?

Please take the time to read this first post and vote in the poll if you haven't yet.

Call me whatever you want. There is no "just this" or "just that".

I could say you're not a normal christian either, you are just a creationist.
No one takes those seriously. You're a clown - even in Christianity. Other Christians laugh at you.

Also, I have still no idea what your mentioning of Ernst Haeckel would ever have to do with the question of a god exists or not.
He wasnt a fraud by any standard, I looked him up.
He was a medicine dude who came into science later on because Darwin inspired him. He was interested in the topic and published a few theories. Nothing about that is fraud. Maybe you should look that word up before you use it next time.

Also never forget: Atheists arent scientists and they never claimed to be scientists. Dont get confused.