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Nov 3 2023 08:53am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Nov 3 2023 02:40pm)
Wild how the number of hostages changes by the day lol, probably makes it a difficult war aim to achieve


Yeah Hamas didn't leave a shopping list behind for the IDF.
Wild eh?

Too busy doing Allah's work and killing people.
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Nov 3 2023 09:02am
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Nov 3 2023 09:19am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 3 Nov 2023 15:37)
But there you go again conflating two issues.
The longterm palestinian question and the immediate threat posed by Hamas.

Israel is not seeking to resolve the underlying issue in this moment. Neither are Hamas, and they never have neen.
Israel's war aims are to remove Hamas as a threat to its people and to free the 240 some hostages.


it is you who fails to see how those issued are directly intertwined and can not be resolved independently. as long as there is an occupation, there will be a resistance, and it's absurd to expect anything else.

the side that has all the power in this conflict is determined not to resolve this underlying issue, so acting like they could somehow just remove the resistance by inflicting even more suffering on predominantly innocent and not (yet) radicalised people, is ridiculous.

as if 70+ years of this haven't been proof enough. i refuse to believe that people are genuinely dumb enough not to realise that. it's self-deception to justify the starving and bombing of children, to justify the vastly disproportionate response to a terrible act of terrorism.
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Nov 3 2023 09:24am
Quote (fender @ 3 Nov 2023 15:44)
keep lying, keep deluding yourself. starving the whole of gaza IS targeting civilians first and foremost. cutting aid to those in need IS targeting civilians. large scale bombings of residential areas IS targeting civilians. just because you don't EXCLUSIVELY target civilians (i'm sure the hamas terrorists would have preferred to murder some high ranking generals or politicians as well, but those are all well protected and out of reach for them), doesn't mean you're any better than THEIR terrorists.

your choice of means speaks for itself. you can try to deceive yourself about it, but you're not convincing anyone who hasn't already committed to excusing the indiscriminate slaughtering of children...
it's ruthless vengeance on an already oppressed and destitute population, no matter how hard you cope...


Starving Gaza to force them out is more humane but the UN decided its better to bomb them
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Nov 3 2023 09:25am
Quote (Meanwhile @ 3 Nov 2023 15:32)
Israel far right gov can't go back in creating its own terrorists, so i guess they should have to "negociate" and/or to cede territories (cancelling all their appartheid laws & blockades toward palestinians).

But that's only my opinion, in fact they want to annex all territories and kill or expusle all palestinians. Religious integrists + nationalism is one way.



Reaching this level of arrogance, lying, and deception must be fascinating. I would be afraid of going crazy.


We are not targeting civilians you can repeat it as much as you want it wont make it true
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Nov 3 2023 09:29am
Quote (Many_Names @ 3 Nov 2023 16:24)
Starving Gaza to force them out is more humane but the UN decided its better to bomb them


holy mother of mental gymnastics. would be funny if it wasn't so sad...
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Nov 3 2023 09:31am
Quote (fender @ 3 Nov 2023 17:29)
holy mother of mental gymnastics. would be funny if it wasn't so sad...


It is sad its sad we have to deal with them at all
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Nov 3 2023 09:44am
There are reports and video to back it up of many bodies in southern gaza after a purported massacre as hamas gunmen fired upon crowds fleeing south towards the the border along al Rasheed beach road, several carrying white peace flags
the footage is clearly of people killed by gunfire, not airstrikes. There are rival claims on the twitter breaking by arabic accounts claiming it was airstrikes, and everyone else pointing out the bodies are strewn wide distances apart with blood trails as they ran and no debris or craters or charring whatsoever

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>BREAKING: Israelis have massacred dozens of Palestinians on the Al Rasheed street evacuation route in Gaza.
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>#BREAKING Many Gazans are sharing this footages which appears to show a group of residents gunned down by Hamas police on the Al Rasheed beach road as they tried to flee south from the Israeli offensive and it triggers outrage among residents
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Nov 3 2023 09:51am
Quote (Goomshill @ 3 Nov 2023 17:44)
There are reports and video to back it up of many bodies in southern gaza after a purported massacre as hamas gunmen fired upon crowds fleeing south towards the the border along al Rasheed beach road, several carrying white peace flags
the footage is clearly of people killed by gunfire, not airstrikes. There are rival claims on the twitter breaking by arabic accounts claiming it was airstrikes, and everyone else pointing out the bodies are strewn wide distances apart with blood trails as they ran and no debris or craters or charring whatsoever

ex;

>BREAKING: Israelis have massacred dozens of Palestinians on the Al Rasheed street evacuation route in Gaza.
vs
>#BREAKING Many Gazans are sharing this footages which appears to show a group of residents gunned down by Hamas police on the Al Rasheed beach road as they tried to flee south from the Israeli offensive and it triggers outrage among residents


Israel will not intentionally target civilians
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Nov 3 2023 10:01am
Quote (Many_Names @ 3 Nov 2023 16:51)
Israel will not intentionally target civilians


then israel has the most incompetent military in the history of mankind, given how many children you ACTUALLY slaughtered...
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