Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 3 2021 03:34pm)

Kenw turns everything racial. I mean even a vid of a white puppy attacking a black puppy would set him off on an anti-white rant.

Quote (aaron9999 @ Nov 3 2021 05:32pm)

I mean it's a white on white situation and your trying to make it in to a white on black crime. Quite delusional

Quote (aaron9999 @ Nov 3 2021 06:30pm)

Dont you think it's funny that all the "protesters" who where shot where sex offenders and criminals white men? Not sure why your bringing in the race card. Kyle was there. Kyle likely saved lives from stopping the dumpster fire from hitting the gas station. How was he to expect a recent mental patient with sexual crimes was going to try and attack him for stopping him from exploding a gas station?

I agree I think the national guard should have went in and treated them as terrorists and use deadly force. Over the passed 2 years "protests" are fucking not protests there acts of terrorism burning down cities. This is not an acceptable thing and our foreign enemies take glee.

Quote (sirthom @ Nov 3 2021 06:38pm)

Rosenbaum is not white.

Quote (Santara @ Nov 3 2021 04:46pm)

I fully agree the shots were defensive in nature.

I don't necessarily agree that he can claim self defense when it can logically be asserted that "he went looking for trouble." He made a positive decision to put himself into a dangerous situation. I agree he has a right to defend himself, but I'm truly torn on a legal claim of self defense.

Quote (Crye @ Nov 3 2021 12:48pm)

I do not know. None of us do, but what I'm saying is that it shouldn't be relevant.
I have a couple of things to add, just to be clear, I have no intentions of provoking anyone into a heated argument here or anything of that nature, just genuinely want yours and others opinions on this and to have an open minded discussion. Weird to have to put that disclaimer but I've noticed people tend to get very angry in this section too quickly.

I would first ask, in your opinion, would it be far off base to draw a comparison between what you're saying here to the "look at how she was dressed" or "why was she with those types of people" or any of those arguments that get tossed around (wrongly) in rape cases?

Then we would have to go to defining exactly what constitutes putting oneself in a situation so volatile or dangerous that you forfeit your right to self defense. As in where precisely is the line that when crossed eliminates any legal way to defend yourself, and who gets to define that in this case given there is no precedent for that. (Not looking to get arguments that Kyle didn't do this here, regardless of my beliefs on that, just looking for an exact point where you can no longer defend yourself whatsoever based on where you are or who you are around or however you want to define it)

Then, could we not use the exact same logic as an argument against the people on the other side of the case? They intentionally put themselves in a dangerous situation, and on top of that, we're actively breaking laws leading up to the events. Surely that is on the same level if not worse?

Let me know what you think on these

Quote (sirthom @ Nov 3 2021 03:38pm)

Rosenbaum is not white.

Quote (kenw @ Nov 3 2021 03:39pm)

Blacks and race traitors are cut from the same cloth according to White nationalists. He should have been at home to begin with, but his white rage consumed and spurred him into action. Most of the protests were peaceful, so you are sounding quite ignorant right now.

Quote (aaron9999 @ Nov 3 2021 05:44pm)

yeah he is.

https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/03/11/joseph-rosenbaum-sex-offender/?amp=1


Newly released Joseph Rosenbaum sex offender documents obtained by Wisconsin Right Now from the Pima County (Arizona) Clerk of Courts confirm Joseph Rosenbaum was charged by a grand jury with 11 counts of child molestation and inappropriate sexual activity around children, including anal rape. The victims were five boys ranging in age from nine to 11 years old.

Quote (aaron9999 @ Nov 3 2021 06:44pm)

yeah he is.

https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/03/11/joseph-rosenbaum-sex-offender/?amp=1


Newly released Joseph Rosenbaum sex offender documents obtained by Wisconsin Right Now from the Pima County (Arizona) Clerk of Courts confirm Joseph Rosenbaum was charged by a grand jury with 11 counts of child molestation and inappropriate sexual activity around children, including anal rape. The victims were five boys ranging in age from nine to 11 years old.