This is some kind of socialist bullshit. I can refuse to serve you for any reason that isn't explicitly protected. Being a dumbass who rejects modern medicine and evidence will never be a protected class.

do you believe that business owners should not have rights?

sounds an awful lot like you're trying to coerce business owners into allowing patrons they do not want to allow

pretty sure some gay cakes would have an opinion on that.

This post was edited by 18nomaUSEast on Sep 8 2021 10:37pm

Not really. When a dictator says to his subjects, "you cannot live unless you do what I say", it is coercion.

Anyway, we are getting sidetracked. My point is that businesses cannot demand to see a patron's vaccine card before letting him in. That's a breach of his privacy.



And if they don't provide pickup/delivery options?

True, and that is why I am advocating adding covid beliefs to the list of the explicitly protected.

Why should businesses demand to know a patron's vaccination status? Give me a good reason.


You need to convince me why just because someone supposedly "rejects" modern science, it means you can deny him service. In other words, why should you be able to cite what someone believes in, or in our case, what he fails to believe in, as a reason for refusing him service?

This post was edited by JessiWan on Sep 8 2021 10:48pm

We do this already.

I am actually empathetic of JessiWan suspicions because the government is pushing this thing quite hard and showing lack of consistency, too busy playing politics.

Businesses should have the right to refuse entry to somebody that they judge dangerous. However, with vaccines widely available (and effective) I would argue that unvaccinated are not dangerous to vaccinated people. They put themselves at risk, but that is their own business.

I am not sure if private businesses have the right to refuse service to someone...but I think they do. Again, if a dumbass business refuses you service go to the other business (not everyone is authoritarian). Problem solved.

The sad part is that so many business owners and people in general simply do not understand that vaccinated people are still carriers. They totally fail to realize this HUGE fact.

You have it backwards. Being able to deny somebody for a specific reason is inherently reserved to the citizens. We live in a society where it isn't on me to prove I can do something, it's on you to prove I can't.

Which promotes people behaving like little Karens.

another good word for antivaxxers