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Aug 27 2020 11:14am
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Serious question. What are you hoping for with posts like this?


To convey my thoughts, which is that you are without a doubt a waste of sperm and that any two hard working parents would be fucking ashamed of what they brought into this world.
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Aug 27 2020 11:15am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 27 2020 01:14pm)
Looks like you might be a bit addicted to anger.

I hope you get this under control, because that's not a healthy or happy way to live.


Yes, that very angry text. Projection is a helluva drug.
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Aug 27 2020 11:17am
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-video.html

New York Times has a... surprisingly good and factual account of what happened in the Kenosha shootings.
They lay out how the video shows the teen didn't shoot first, and was turning towards the sound of a gunshot behind him when he saw the first guy lunge at him that moment.
Its probable that he didn't even realize he was being chased that moment given all the sounds around him and never looking back even as the guy flung the bottle/bag at him
So he hears a gunshot from close range behind him, raises his rifle and turns and a guy jumps at him that exact second.

it’s because video evidence so far shows a young white-hispanic being attacked and chased by multiple much older privileged cis white males.

even nytimes cannot refute this

now why he was allowed to leave after he surrendered that’s bizarre and the case will probably focus more on this
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Aug 27 2020 11:35am
One thing that's strange to me is that there are reports that Blake had a knife already and they said "drop the knife." If that's the case, why shoot him when he's in his car with his back to you? Why not shoot him immediately after he gets away? I think it makes a lot more sense if he was unarmed and then they shot him while he was getting a knife.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 27 2020 11:32am)
The silver knife visible in his left hand in the videos, that was recovered from inside the car after he was shot.
The reason why the cops were shouting "drop the knife"


I trust cops yelling 'drop the knife' to a black guy about as much as I trust my butcher to tell me about veganism.

Him having the knife before he gets in the car doesn't really change the situation. If they thought he was going to get a gun why not stop him before he gets the gun? If he already has a knife and has already escalated to deadly force it doesn't make sense to wait until he gets in the car to shoot him in the back.

Is there a better video besides what we saw before, where it was a gun then a knife then a cell phone then a knife?
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Aug 27 2020 11:40am
Quote (thundercock @ Aug 27 2020 12:35pm)
One thing that's strange to me is that there are reports that Blake had a knife already and they said "drop the knife." If that's the case, why shoot him when he's in his car with his back to you? Why not shoot him immediately after he gets away? I think it makes a lot more sense if he was unarmed and then they shot him while he was getting a knife.


Yeah I mean I don’t think the police handled this event very poorly, even if he was a degenerate. I think most people agree that this is the main underlying problem, that he was allowed to walk 10 feet with the knife then got shot 7 times in the back without any new hostile intent. I got one officer friend who basically like he should have been tazed and dropped the moment he refused to drop the knife which I don’t disagree with

Ofc looting never justified and all those people caught should be put away

In addition to 17 year old rick grimes who thinks he’s a badass
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Aug 27 2020 11:46am
So after watching a shitload of footage

The guy who got headshotted
He was being aggro to the patriot people (the group at the gas station)

That same guy was the one chasing kyle down and threw the flaming object
I don’t know if Kyle did a quick 180 no scope on dudes nugget but it seems the first shots fired wernt even from him he was turning around and noticed a dude running at him and probably panic pulled the trigger
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Aug 27 2020 11:47am
Quote (Bazi @ Aug 27 2020 10:40am)
Yeah I mean I don’t think the police handled this event very poorly, even if he was a degenerate. I think most people agree that this is the main underlying problem, that he was allowed to walk 10 feet with the knife then got shot 7 times in the back without any new hostile intent. I got one officer friend who basically like he should have been tazed and dropped the moment he refused to drop the knife which I don’t disagree with

Ofc looting never justified and all those people caught should be put away

In addition to 17 year old rick grimes who thinks he’s a badass


Yea, at the end of the day, it seems like there are a lot of problems with the police/sheriffs department. They simply don't know how to handle pressure between this and the riots.
Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 27 2020 10:39am)
I trust cops yelling 'drop the knife' to a black guy about as much as I trust my butcher to tell me about veganism.

Him having the knife before he gets in the car doesn't really change the situation. If they thought he was going to get a gun why not stop him before he gets the gun? If he already has a knife and has already escalated to deadly force it doesn't make sense to wait until he gets in the car to shoot him in the back.

Is there a better video besides what we saw before, where it was a gun then a knife then a cell phone then a knife?


I'd wait for the WI DOJ (or equivalent) to release a report because there's too much that doesn't make sense.
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Aug 27 2020 11:49am
Quote (thundercock @ Aug 27 2020 12:35pm)
One thing that's strange to me is that there are reports that Blake had a knife already and they said "drop the knife." If that's the case, why shoot him when he's in his car with his back to you? Why not shoot him immediately after he gets away? I think it makes a lot more sense if he was unarmed and then they shot him while he was getting a knife.


Like I say that's a bit of armchair quarterbacking isn't it? They kept giving him a lot of leeway and didn't resort to shooting him immediately, but when the officer tried to stop him getting in the vehicle, he was able to get partially inside and reach in. That made him a lot more uncontrolled in the moment. He could come up with a gun that instant, he could turn and stab the guy inches away from him. Police avoided shooting him just for being armed and combative because they thought they had the opportunity to detain him with non-lethal means, but once he escaped and introduced new risks outside of their control, they shot.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 27 2020 12:39pm)
I trust cops yelling 'drop the knife' to a black guy about as much as I trust my butcher to tell me about veganism.

Him having the knife before he gets in the car doesn't really change the situation. If they thought he was going to get a gun why not stop him before he gets the gun? If he already has a knife and has already escalated to deadly force it doesn't make sense to wait until he gets in the car to shoot him in the back.

Is there a better video besides what we saw before, where it was a gun then a knife then a cell phone then a knife?


nope you can thank the local government (democrats) for being unwilling to fund the police and give them the bodycams they requested, so that grainy footage where we couldn't tell at first whether it was a gun or knife or cell phone or car keys, is all we get

This post was edited by Goomshill on Aug 27 2020 11:50am
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Aug 27 2020 11:54am
Quote (hunter_1 @ Aug 27 2020 12:46pm)
So after watching a shitload of footage

The guy who got headshotted
He was being aggro to the patriot people (the group at the gas station)

That same guy was the one chasing kyle down and threw the flaming object
I don’t know if Kyle did a quick 180 no scope on dudes nugget but it seems the first shots fired wernt even from him he was turning around and noticed a dude running at him and probably panic pulled the trigger


It was not a flaming object, it was a plastic bag with a water bottle in it, possibly other blunt objects. It was lit up by the bright yellow lights behind it so it appeared to be on fire as it fluttered in the air, but you can easily see that it doesn't result in any flames on the ground where it lands and was filmed afterwards in detail as a plastic bag.

But what the video does show clearly is a muzzle flash from someone standing ~50 feet away on the street firing a handgun, which is what makes the crowd panic, the guy filming say 'they're shooting', and makes kyle turn around with his rifle raised.
The first gunshot was just after the guy chasing kyle threw the bag. So he hears a gunshot, turns around, and the first thing he sees is an angry bald guy lunging at him full speed, and opens fire.

Now there could still be more details we don't know- maybe bald guy had an additional weapon in hand. Maybe he didn't. But it does make a pretty compelling case to assume that Kyle shot the first guy because he got panicked by the gunfire and assumed someone was shooting at or around him and turned to return fire, and the guy lunging at him just had the rotten luck of happening to attack at the very moment the gunshot was fired. Its also not entirely clear from the footage where that first gunshot was aimed, it might have been fired into the air blindly, but it also could have been aimed at the kid, maybe he heard it whiz past him

That isn't even remotely close to first degree murder, which is what the DA is charging him

This post was edited by Goomshill on Aug 27 2020 11:55am
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