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Jan 8 2020 04:12am
Quote (fender @ Jan 8 2020 05:10am)
do you not know what 'preliminary' means?



Yeah a waste of time
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Jan 8 2020 05:05am
Quote (Subban2 @ Jan 8 2020 04:07am)
They found that out in less than 24h?
I call it bullshit


If the pilot was in contact with the tower and called in an engine fire, there would be people on the ground who know and lived to tell about it.
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Jan 8 2020 05:07am
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Russia shot down another one for their friends?

They were never punished for murdering the people on that Dutch plane so why not?


Quote (pwb3 @ Jan 8 2020 01:14am)
I wonder if some of the Iranians, out of anger from what's happening in their country recently, sabotaged the aircraft? This is pretty bad.

But why Ukraine, tho? Were there any Americans on the plane?


Somebody is at war with Ukraine, who was an American ally before Trump.

How long until people blame Nancy Pelosi for all this death for impeaching trump and needing this distraction? Because if trump wasn't held accountable for his bad behavior and was just enabled like he has been his whole life then he would not have had to shoot a missile to distract from personal responsibility.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jan 8 2020 05:10am
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Jan 8 2020 05:17am
82nd Airborne deploying to the Middle East.

I remember getting orders like that. Glad I worked for President Clinton.

Never join the army when a Republican is in office lol. You're going to go bleed for oil.


https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1Z616W

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Jan 8 2020 06:33am
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-crash/ukrainian-airliner-crashes-in-iran-killing-176-idUSKBN1Z70EL

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An official at Ukraine’s embassy in Tehran said Iranian authorities had asked it to rescind an initial statement from Iran based on preliminary information that had blamed the accident on engine failure.

Iranian TV said the crash was due to unspecified technical problems, and Iranian media quoted a local aviation official as saying the pilot did not declare an emergency.
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Jan 8 2020 06:57am


Some of official statements from UIA management translated into english:

- aircraft has gone through checks on 6th January
- no complaints from crews that operated the aircraft before
- captain had 11000 hours of flight experience, 5500 as captain of 737
- an instructor pilot was present on board with 12000 hours, 6500 as captain of 737
- FO had 7600 hours on 737
- pilots were very familiar with Teheran airport
- the airline is very unlikely to believe in some kind of cockpit crew fault or aircraft failure
- UIA is stopping flights to Iran


Doubt this was a planned attack though, many aboard from Iran. Still exists the possibility it was accidentally shot down.

We'll have to wait for the box.
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Jan 8 2020 07:20am
Quote (WiziLiCe @ Jan 8 2020 07:57am)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzhuFUppxec

Some of official statements from UIA management translated into english:

- aircraft has gone through checks on 6th January
- no complaints from crews that operated the aircraft before
- captain had 11000 hours of flight experience, 5500 as captain of 737
- an instructor pilot was present on board with 12000 hours, 6500 as captain of 737
- FO had 7600 hours on 737
- pilots were very familiar with Teheran airport
- the airline is very unlikely to believe in some kind of cockpit crew fault or aircraft failure
- UIA is stopping flights to Iran


Doubt this was a planned attack though, many aboard from Iran. Still exists the possibility it was accidentally shot down.

We'll have to wait for the box.


Which it looks like the Iranians are unwilling to give up.
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Jan 8 2020 07:56am
The alphabet boys probably shot it down with an Iranian missile
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Jan 8 2020 07:57am
Trigger happy Iranian SAM operator.
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Jan 8 2020 08:04am
Quote (Skinned @ Jan 8 2020 05:17am)
82nd Airborne deploying to the Middle East.

I remember getting orders like that. Glad I worked for President Clinton.

Never join the army when a Republican is in office lol. You're going to go bleed for oil.


https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1Z616W


Ah yes, the "kinder, gentler military."
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