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#431
Mar 29 2019 01:49am
ok ok ok.. president trump.. i'm actually kind of tired of winning .. too much winning
need a smoke break and a 12 pack pls
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Mar 29 2019 03:02am
no clue how anyone could have gotten any ideas. complete fabrications ofc...

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Mar 29 2019 03:07am
just normal things an american president says:



and does:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-russia-sanctions-trump-no-new-congress-law-election-hacking-intervention-putin-kremlin-a8184866.html

"I don't care, I believe Putin"
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#434
Mar 29 2019 01:05pm
Anyway now that the chips are settled, a quick perusing of posts in liberal havens on various social media platforms / TV shows over the past few days has shown me that the #1 response to the Mueller Report is... denialism.
By far the most common and agreed upon reaction is people insisting that the Mueller Report doesn't actually say there's no collusion and that Barr's summary is false and we still need to see the real thing (except hedging their bets in case the real thing doesn't prove it either)
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#435
Mar 29 2019 01:10pm
Quote (fender @ Mar 29 2019 11:07am)
just normal things an american president says:


collision confirmed
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#436
Mar 29 2019 01:13pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 29 Mar 2019 20:05)
Anyway now that the chips are settled, a quick perusing of posts in liberal havens on various social media platforms / TV shows over the past few days has shown me that the #1 response to the Mueller Report is... denialism.
By far the most common and agreed upon reaction is people insisting that the Mueller Report doesn't actually say there's no collusion and that Barr's summary is false and we still need to see the real thing (except hedging their bets in case the real thing doesn't prove it either)


well, the one thing that Barr's summary quoted directly from Mueller and which was quite unambiguous was "could not establish collusion". hoping that the full report somehow shows that there was ample evidence for collusion that Mueller somehow didnt deem enough proof is delusional.

imho, from a democratic perspective, the greatest hope is to find a bombshell in the "reasons for and against obstruction of justice charges".
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#437
Mar 29 2019 01:22pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 29 2019 02:13pm)
well, the one thing that Barr's summary quoted directly from Mueller and which was quite unambiguous was "could not establish collusion". hoping that the full report somehow shows that there was ample evidence for collusion that Mueller somehow didnt deem enough proof is delusional.

imho, from a democratic perspective, the greatest hope is to find a bombshell in the "reasons for and against obstruction of justice charges".


It is a little ambiguous, especially if you don't trust Barr's integrity. There's an argument that "did not establish conspiracy or coordination" doesn't mean "we found zero evidence of conspiracy or coordination".

I don't think Barr has any reason to write a misleading letter... but let's see the report. This isn't going to end without transparency.
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#438
Mar 29 2019 01:36pm
Quote (fender @ Mar 29 2019 01:07am)
just normal things an american president says:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8-VB-XkjKQ

"I don't care, I believe Putin"
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Every American should have stood cheering when Trump said "We got a lot of killers...what you think our country's so innocent". It reflects a sentiment of acknowledging and disavowing the vicious policy of unjustified wars, funding conflict across the globe and carrying out political assassinations. Trump is more dovish than most modern presidents. You can see he really doesn't want to spread conflict (unless his Israel fetishism and Jared tell him to). You want to know who supports war? Everyone. Just look at the response to wanting to engage in the complete withdrawal of a nation. Once the Americans move in, they don't move out.

As for believing Putin before our intel agencies, shit, I would too. Our intel agencies led us into the Iraq War. I'm sick of everyone lining up to blow 'em. They're run by fuck ups. I think that's fair to acknowledge. 4,000+ dead Americans. 30,000+ wounded. 183,249 – 205,785 deaths. Thank you American Intelligence Agencies. I wouldn't ask those rats for the time of day. Maybe they're too busy spying on Americans without warrants to not destabilize entire global region, create surges in terrorism, the migrant crisis, etc, etc.

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Mar 29 2019 01:39pm
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Mar 29 2019 01:45pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Mar 29 2019 11:39am)
U.S. Attorney General Barr to release redacted copy of Mueller report in mid-April

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/u-s-attorney-general-barr-to-release-redacted-copy-of-mueller-report-in-mid-april-idUSKCN1RA2CN?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:%20reuters/topNews%20(News%20/%20US%20/%20Top%20News)


400-page doc btw lmk kkty


Makes sense, an unredacted report would be irresponsible.
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