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Aug 19 2012 03:13pm
Quote (SecondGear @ Aug 19 2012 05:04pm)
You are ignorant. You refuse to believe in Islam because of what you see in the media. You have not even read the quran so please don't talk about it how "we are not like muslims that force people into conversion" give me one verse in the quran that forces people into conversion.

Also please explain to me how to believe in your bible. No lie I want to know the truth unlike you who is ignorant. Please provide me with a version of the bible that has not been changed and was written at the time of Jesus. Oh wait you can't because you are not even able to provide me copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copied version of the bible. That's how far humans have changed the bible. And I'm not saying this. These were christian scholars that told me this.

There are so many faults in the bible I can point out. Point out one fault in the quran, if it makes sense logically. I am ready to leave islam.

You really are ignorant. You are just not letting yourself find the truth.

"For God so loved the world that He gave His onlybegotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
"For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

The most ancient Greek Manuscripts do not have the word "Begotten", thus the RSV Bible (Revised Standard Version) that is written under the authority of 32 scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 different Christian co-operating denominations, they have completely thrown out this word 'Begotten' as a fabrication, an interpolation & a concoction.

Again christians have just been changing the bible even though this change is actually correct. It is 'now' not the true word of god, maybe it was, but you christians have changed it so much AND misinterpreted the bible saying Jesus is god. Not ONE verse in the bible jesus says, "I am god worship me" Not one verse. So maybe it was at that time when it was written but then it got changed so Allah has to come out with a new book the quran which has never been changed in 1400 years.


....no you won't . You'll simply deny it is a fault and ignore any opinion that differs from you own . You also won't ever leave because of the threat of violence from other muslims in your own book if you do .
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Aug 19 2012 03:26pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Aug 19 2012 04:13pm)
....no you won't . You'll simply deny it is a fault and ignore any opinion that differs from you own . You also won't ever leave because of the threat of violence from other muslims in your own book if you do .



You cant assume I will deny. And there is no threat from other muslims.
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Aug 19 2012 03:30pm
Quote (SecondGear @ Aug 19 2012 05:26pm)
You cant assume I will deny. And there is no threat from other muslims.




...I don't have to assume , I will guarantee it . I was actually quite stunned that someone who claims to be such a pious muslim would offer up their faith as the payoff in the form of a wager .
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Aug 19 2012 03:33pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Aug 19 2012 04:30pm)
...I don't have to assume , I will guarantee it . I was actually quite stunned that someone who claims to be such a pious muslim would offer up their faith as the payoff in the form of a wager .



How is it a wager? I am saying if you find a fault in the quran. It is not the word of god so I will leave islam but I can gaurantee you won't find a fault in the quran that is why I am able to make such a claim. It isn't a wager or a bet.
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Aug 19 2012 03:39pm
Quote (SecondGear @ Aug 19 2012 05:33pm)
How is it a wager? I am saying if you find a fault in the quran. It is not the word of god so I will leave islam but I can gaurantee you won't find a fault in the quran that is why I am able to make such a claim. It isn't a wager or a bet.


...even muslim scholars agree there are some disagreements on interpretation and life application in the koran and your wager would have left you renouncing your faith . If there were no disagreements on what the koran says and teaches you wouldn't be killing each other off and suicide bombing each others mosques .
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Aug 19 2012 03:40pm
I spend my life to help others in need. Save lives, and I don't hurt people.

Going to hell because I don't believe in a population control scheme


fuck :/
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Aug 19 2012 03:42pm
Quote (Tylr @ Aug 19 2012 05:40pm)
I spend my life to help others in need.  Save lives, and I don't hurt people.

Going to hell because I don't believe in a population control scheme


f**k :/




...wow , did you come to the wrong forum kid :blink:
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Aug 19 2012 03:45pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Aug 19 2012 05:42pm)
...wow , did you come to the wrong forum kid  :blink:


Hey.
I don't like you.
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Aug 19 2012 03:48pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Aug 19 2012 04:39pm)
...even muslim scholars agree there are some disagreements on interpretation and life application in the koran and your wager would have left you renouncing your faith . If there were no disagreements on what the koran says and teaches you wouldn't be killing each other off and suicide bombing each others mosques .



Disagreements on interpretations. Do you know what that means? Show me proof muslim scholars agree on that first of all, then we can move on to what it means. See again you only see these things in the media and you believe it is true. Show me proof that we have been suicide bombing other mosques? Oh wait you can't cuz you only hear these type of things you never see them. Also you are acting like we are the only ones that do this.

How bout the white guy who bombed the gurdawara? How bout your American war in MANY MANY countries killing thousands of innocent peoples lives. The media has corrupted your mind. You are not allowed to kill people if you are a muslim unless it is an act of self defense. The funny thing is you say a lot of things yet can't provide any proof whatsoever. Give me verse in the quran that says killing people is alright. Show me some proof. You can't cuz you have never read the quran itself you just make claims based on what you hear from the media.
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Aug 19 2012 03:48pm
Quote (SecondGear @ Aug 19 2012 03:33pm)
How is it a wager? I am saying if you find a fault in the quran. It is not the word of god so I will leave islam but I can gaurantee you won't find a fault in the quran that is why I am able to make such a claim. It isn't a wager or a bet.


It has inconsistencies as well,,, If you really want I can point them out. To me it makes no difference if it is your belief it is your belief.

And yes quite a few Muslims believe if you leave Islam you are no longer in the Dar al Islam

So,,,that only leaves you in Dar a-harb
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