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Jan 21 2026 03:33am
nobody cried adhominems, what are you even talking about? you don't have an argument and you are simply posting memes. you didn't address anything about the epistemic justification of your worldview and completely ignored my argument that destroys your appeal to materialism, you are simply on faith of all transcendental categories, a polytheist. I have made zero arguments using bible verses but have simply replied with bible verses when requested or when correcting misunderstandings, my argument for God is purely logical. a facebook meme isn't a logical argument.

what makes a video credible evidence in your worldview?


Other people have used adhominems do you want me to find the quote? You are specifically using argument of authority trying to pass off memes as a non credible sources so that you can avoid debating and to diminish their points they raise.
While they may be on the simple side of debates sometimes they reveal very serious contradictions and hypocrisy.

I don't remember you even attempting to defend against the contradictions presented in this thread. Just pull me into side conversation about something to do with epistemological truth of rocks or w/e



A video is credible evidence because its hard evidence along with things like dna test, physical objects, fingerprints etc are harder to fake than a note from 2000 years ago from a second hand account or a personal testimony. Do you know how courts of law work, science, forensics?

Incredible claims require incredible evidence. So instead of wasting my time on some philosophical hypotheticals and ontalogical rocks, why don't you just get some of that evidence and show us. Lets see it.
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Jan 21 2026 03:53am
Other people have used adhominems do you want me to find the quote? You are specifically using argument of authority trying to pass off memes as a non credible sources so that you can avoid debating and to diminish their points they raise.
While they may be on the simple side of debates sometimes they reveal very serious contradictions and hypocrisy.

I don't remember you even attempting to defend against the contradictions presented in this thread. Just pull me into side conversation about something to do with epistemological truth of rocks or w/e

https://imgur.com/Ug9Stns.jpeg

A video is credible evidence because its hard evidence along with things like dna test, physical objects, fingerprints etc are harder to fake than a note from 2000 years ago from a second hand account or a personal testimony. Do you know how courts of law work, science, forensics?

Incredible claims require incredible evidence. So instead of wasting my time on some philosophical hypotheticals and ontalogical rocks, why don't you just get some of that evidence and show us. Lets see it.


I am telling you posting a meme isn't making an argument, this isn't an 'argument of authority' or whatever you're saying or dismissing them as a 'credible source'. I can't debate a 'meme' or diminish a 'meme'. memes simply aren't arguments.

you just said "a video is credible evidence because its hard evidence'(ironically the circular argument you appealed to earlier without a grounding or justification), you basically said "video evidence is credible because it is".

you brought up courts of law, but you missed the most important part that the legal system requires a presupposition of truth and morality to function. without a transcendental grounding, 'justice' is just an opinion and 'evidence' is just an interpretation. you are appealing to a system built on the very Christian values you are trying to mock.

you haven't established how a video is evidence or proof in your worldview. how do you know your eyes and brain are capable of discerning information and meaning, how do you know there is meaning behind words or audio and video have semantic meaning that are congruent to objective reality?

in a random materialistic universe, there is no 'logic,' only chemical reactions. there is no 'evidence,' only sensory data that your brain might be hallucinating. you are using the Logos to argue against the Logos, you have to establish the possibility of knowledge using your worldview before you can even attempt to argue, which is why I ask how video evidence is credible and your response is 'it just is'


you claim that 'incredible claims require incredible evidence' yet in your worldview ordered logic, meaning, purpose, induction, and other true things that are immaterial can arbitrarily arise from random matter with zero justification.

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Jan 21 2026 04:07am
Other people have used adhominems do you want me to find the quote? You are specifically using argument of authority trying to pass off memes as a non credible sources so that you can avoid debating and to diminish their points they raise.
While they may be on the simple side of debates sometimes they reveal very serious contradictions and hypocrisy.

I don't remember you even attempting to defend against the contradictions presented in this thread. Just pull me into side conversation about something to do with epistemological truth of rocks or w/e

https://imgur.com/Ug9Stns.jpeg

A video is credible evidence because its hard evidence along with things like dna test, physical objects, fingerprints etc are harder to fake than a note from 2000 years ago from a second hand account or a personal testimony. Do you know how courts of law work, science, forensics?

Incredible claims require incredible evidence. So instead of wasting my time on some philosophical hypotheticals and ontalogical rocks, why don't you just get some of that evidence and show us. Lets see it.


We're still waiting on your "evidence" on your belief.

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Jan 21 2026 04:31am
In formal logic a valid argument is: A is the necessary precondition for B, B therefore A.

God is the necessary precondition for transcendentals, transcendentals exist therefore God exists.

The only worldview that can give a sound and coherent account for transcendentals is the Christian worldview, the materialistic worldview cannot nor can other religious worldviews account for things like truth, logic, math, meaning, teleology, induction or the regularity of the universe, the problem of the one and the many, etc etc while Christianity perfectly accounts for all things. There is a limited amount of worldviews, so to prove that the Christian worldview is correct I simply have to show your worldview is incapable of epistemic justification while also showing the Christian worldview perfectly accounts for such things.

this argument a two part argument, with the first part being a disjunctive syllogism

You can be arbitrary and believe in materialism which cannot account for laws of logic that are immaterial, universal, and invariant, because a material world is composed of physical, local, and changing matter but that would be ironic if you care about logic and knowledge, evidence and proof.
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Jan 21 2026 04:50am
We're still waiting on your "evidence" on your belief.

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I don't see how my beliefs are relevant especially since this thread is about christianity and its fakeness.
Doing a heck of a lot of crying here not a lot of providing proof of your jesus. Where he at?





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Jan 21 2026 04:57am
I don't see how my beliefs are relevant especially since this thread is about christianity and its fakeness.
Doing a heck of a lot of crying here not a lot of providing proof of your jesus. Where he at?

https://imgur.com/sX8a0he.jpeg

https://imgur.com/9ed1iDg.jpeg

https://imgur.com/zIf0HLJ.jpeg


If you are going to claim something as fake you would be expected to demonstrate what is real and you have yet to do so. You aren't a proper spokesperson for your belief, clearly. It wouldn't make sense for any reasonable person to hear you say I'm 100% sure on this, but 0% sure on my counter argument against it.

You are fully capable of finding Jesus and the only way you'll find Jesus is trusting in him and having faith in his word.

He is with you and wanting a relationship with you. The plans he has for you are amazing, but it all starts with you.
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Jan 21 2026 05:04am
the picture you asked for

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Jan 21 2026 05:18am
If you are going to claim something as fake you would be expected to demonstrate what is real and you have yet to do so. You aren't a proper spokesperson for your belief, clearly. It wouldn't make sense for any reasonable person to hear you say I'm 100% sure on this, but 0% sure on my counter argument against it.

You are fully capable of finding Jesus and the only way you'll find Jesus is trusting in him and having faith in his word.

He is with you and wanting a relationship with you. The plans he has for you are amazing, but it all starts with you.


Thats not how it works. Christianity makes a claim I am asking for proof of that claim. No proof = fake which is what this thread is saying. I am not affirming I am denying

You are saying jesus is real
I am asking can you prove it?
You are not providing proof.
I am concluding it must be fake then
You are asking me can you prove that its not fake
You are shifting the burden of proof and asking to prove a negative
Its not my job to prove or disprove what you haven't proved in the first place.
Thats like saying can you disprove buddha or 1000's of other gods?
I can however point out the contradictions and add to the pile of evidence that suggests its fake religion. You are welcome to set the record straight by providing required evidence or watch and cry from the sidelines as it gets exposed more and more. Your choice.





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Jan 21 2026 05:19am
I don't see how my beliefs are relevant especially since this thread is about christianity and its fakeness.
Doing a heck of a lot of crying here not a lot of providing proof of your jesus. Where he at?

https://imgur.com/sX8a0he.jpeg

https://imgur.com/9ed1iDg.jpeg

https://imgur.com/zIf0HLJ.jpeg


what do you assume they are praying about?

jews rejected Jesus

i just researched the first claim on 3rd meme "internet porn consumption" it doesnt match your claim. means your posting lies. be more careful or no one going to believe anything you say
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Jan 21 2026 05:29am
Thats not how it works. Christianity makes a claim I am asking for proof of that claim. No proof = fake which is what this thread is saying. I am not affirming I am denying

You are saying jesus is real
I am asking can you prove it?
You are not providing proof.
I am concluding it must be fake then
You are asking me can you prove that its not fake
You are shifting the burden of proof and asking to prove a negative
Its not my job to prove or disprove what you haven't proved in the first place.
Thats like saying can you disprove buddha or 1000's of other gods?
I can however point out the contradictions and add to the pile of evidence that suggests its fake religion. You are welcome to set the record straight by providing required evidence or watch and cry from the sidelines as it gets exposed more and more. Your choice.

https://imgur.com/9qFpiOU.jpeg

https://imgur.com/ETJEZdb.jpeg

https://imgur.com/rMH8Otc.jpeg


No that's exactly how that works.

I'm giving you the same expectation you are giving me. It's entertaining to see you get real responses from others but you refuse to discuss your own belief. You've made a claim and I'm asking proof of your claim and the fact that I personally know God is real is why I'm curious to see your counter and you don't have one presented here.

All off your attempts at contradiction are debunked due to you not applying the context it is written in and you refuse to view the word in the way it was written. You are simply asking ai to explain why these are contradictions and applying a modern view on a Hebrew meaning.

Your thread is all about you posting Facebook memes and contradicting yourself along the way. You have not posted a single piece of evidence that debunks Gods existence.
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