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Feb 19 2025 04:12pm
We're one what one and a half month into this and you've posted multiple times in this thread how this is an abject failure. Your criticisms are mostly that this shouldn't be even undertaken, or that it's political or you're bothered by some betting ads on the doge tracker.

I'm asking you for the alternative that you would prefer if you were an American? No audit, someone else do the audit? Like what exactly? Personally I'm more bothered about trillions of waste and no one giving a fuck about it, not the media, not politicians, saddling my kids with unimaginable debt that will either resolve itself in hyperinflation, or interest expense crowding out all other spend.

Even if these savings amount to peanuts so what? I rather them try and fail.


Point to where I said it was a failure.
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Feb 19 2025 04:18pm
Point to where I said it was a failure.


You disposition has been to frame the whole undertaking as a failure. You click on the doge tracker website, and your only take way from it is why is there polymarket betting odds on it. Who gives a fuck? Yeah ads are on there for them to probably earn some peanuts to host the site and maybe redirect some traffic earnings fee from Poly. I doubt they are making anything material of those adds. But you don't actually care to look through the itemized savings/contracts cut, you're more fixated on the adds?
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Feb 19 2025 04:19pm
You disposition has been to frame the whole undertaking as a failure. You click on the doge tracker website, and your only take way from it is why is there polymarket betting odds on it. Who gives a fuck? Yeah ads are on there for them to probably earn some peanuts to host the site and maybe redirect some traffic earnings fee from Poly. I doubt they are making anything material of those adds. But you don't actually care to look through the itemized savings/contracts cut, you're more fixated on the adds?


Right you cant. Your one thing is I shit on posting gambling ads on a gov't saving tracker that is saving americans money.

Good one.

No wonder you guys are so polarized you will spin a story in your head just so you can convince yourself someone's against you or your point of view.

This post was edited by SBD on Feb 19 2025 04:20pm
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Feb 19 2025 04:22pm
Bob you have done enough incoherent floundering today.


Precisely. You have no response. You claim that Trump supporters should be criticizing Trump and Elon, yet you can't even say WHAT we should criticize them about.

The fact of the matter is that DOGE is one of the most popular things any President has done in my lifetime, and the overwhelming majority of people I know and speak to, be they left, right, or center, SUPPORT the actions of DOGE.

Literal foaming at the mouth, pink haired banshees that I tend to try to avoid talking to in the first place are now telling me that, "Well, Trump is still a vile, rapist FELON and I hope [insert bad thing here] happens, but DOGE is doing a great job!"

The only people who really seem to be getting upset about it are government employees who're losing their free ride, and people benefitting from wasteful spending. And both of those types of people can get fucked. Their days of living off the stolen wealth of taxpayers is over. And thank fuck for that.

So, what are we supposed to criticize Trump/Elon for again?
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Feb 19 2025 04:25pm
Precisely. You have no response. You claim that Trump supporters should be criticizing Trump and Elon, yet you can't even say WHAT we should criticize them about.

The fact of the matter is that DOGE is one of the most popular things any President has done in my lifetime, and the overwhelming majority of people I know and speak to, be they left, right, or center, SUPPORT the actions of DOGE.

Literal foaming at the mouth, pink haired banshees that I tend to try to avoid talking to in the first place are now telling me that, "Well, Trump is still a vile, rapist FELON and I hope [insert bad thing here] happens, but DOGE is doing a great job!"

The only people who really seem to be getting upset about it are government employees who're losing their free ride, and people benefitting from wasteful spending. And both of those types of people can get fucked. Their days of living off the stolen wealth of taxpayers is over. And thank fuck for that.

So, what are we supposed to criticize Trump/Elon for again?


You don't strike me as the person who ever tries to avoid talking.
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Feb 19 2025 04:32pm
Right you cant. Your one thing is I shit on posting gambling ads on a gov't saving tracker that is saving americans money.

Good one.

No wonder you guys are so polarized you will spin a story in your head just so you can convince yourself someone's against you or your point of view.


It's not a gov't website though, and it's clearly designed to be user friendly and not an actual legal/regulatory disclosure or tied to official curtailments.

It's fun for us to track along under an aggregated list like that site instead of buried under a million different gov't sources that no normal human would ever be able to keep track of.

My annoyance is this is being continuously shitted on and discounted based on mostly character attacks or other dumb shit like Elon will steal your social security or that he's trying to get rich off this or that he wasn't elected to do this. Completely nonsensical tangents. We want cuts, this is what we voted. We want accountability, we want government employees that allocate huge pools of money to think twice and ask themselves is there something or someone that may audit my actions down the line.
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Feb 19 2025 04:33pm
You don't strike me as the person who ever tries to avoid talking.


Strange, I was just thinking the opposite about you. You don't strike me as the person who ever addresses a point, or answers a question.

You said that Trump Supporters need to criticize Trump and Elon. Here, quick reminder:

I think its more of the case that criticism or concern in some cases is seen as a direct attack and loyalists concluding that its a them hoping it fails,

This then sets off a huge chain of whatabouisms from die hard loyalists rather than ever being able to just breath in and say yeah that's probably a valid concern or criticism. Me saying that will likely just draw in a bunch of whatabouisms.

Its okay to be happy they're reviewing certain things but also have a valid criticism of something, its alright man Elon and Trump won't disown you and nor will your party. People have to get over this hump. You wont magically become blue if you express any form of criticism over your own party. People can have an opinion.

I myself in either this thread or one of the others said its probably a good thing to do after each administration change.


So now, I'm asking you, directly, exactly WHAT are we supposed to Criticize DOGE over? This isn't a "gotcha" or a trap. If you're going to claim that Trump Supporters need to criticize a thing that we directly support, we need to know what DOGE has done wrong that we should be critical of.

You can answer the question or you can admit that you don't know. Anything else is just useless spam, just like your last several posts in this thread.
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Feb 19 2025 04:35pm
It's not a gov't website though, and it's clearly designed to be user friendly and not an actual legal/regulatory disclosure or tied to official curtailments.

It's fun for us to track along under an aggregated list like that site instead of buried under a million different gov't sources that no normal human would ever be able to keep track of.

My annoyance is this is being continuously shitted on and discounted based on mostly character attacks or other dumb shit like Elon will steal your social security or that he's trying to get rich off this or that he wasn't elected to do this. Completely nonsensical tangents. We want cuts, this is what we voted. We want accountability, we want government employees that allocate huge pools of money to think twice and ask themselves is there something or someone that may audit my actions down the line.


So nothing to point to to where I called it a failure.

Got it.
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Feb 19 2025 04:37pm
Strange, I was just thinking the opposite about you. You don't strike me as the person who ever addresses a point, or answers a question.

You said that Trump Supporters need to criticize Trump and Elon. Here, quick reminder:



So now, I'm asking you, directly, exactly WHAT are we supposed to Criticize DOGE over? This isn't a "gotcha" or a trap. If you're going to claim that Trump Supporters need to criticize a thing that we directly support, we need to know what DOGE has done wrong that we should be critical of.

You can answer the question or you can admit that you don't know. Anything else is just useless spam, just like your last several posts in this thread.


Bob again I cant hold your hand every time. Now do as you so often request and go find it yourself. Stop being a little bitch bob and live by your own words!
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Feb 19 2025 04:38pm
I think its more of the case that criticism or concern in some cases is seen as a direct attack and loyalists concluding that its a them hoping it fails,

This then sets off a huge chain of whatabouisms from die hard loyalists rather than ever being able to just breath in and say yeah that's probably a valid concern or criticism. Me saying that will likely just draw in a bunch of whatabouisms.

Its okay to be happy they're reviewing certain things but also have a valid criticism of something, its alright man Elon and Trump won't disown you and nor will your party. People have to get over this hump. You wont magically become blue if you express any form of criticism over your own party. People can have an opinion.

I myself in either this thread or one of the others said its probably a good thing to do after each administration change.


I fully agree with this. There are just so many different issues out there I just don’t see how a full throated supported for everything or complete condemnation of everything makes any sense. But we’ve become so tribal and baked into our red team/blue team, we can’t seem to separate individual policies/statements/actions from administrations or parties anymore and we just default to pushing the red or blue button on everything and every issue.

Very few things in this world are wholly good or bad, there are shades of gray and nuance to everything… but nuance seems lost, at least at the moment.
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