Right.

In your world, Biden is responsible for there being vaccines, and Biden in superman like fashion basically planned all of the logistics on day one in January. Nope none of those logistical chains, planning, investments existed under Trump because orange man bad.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 14 2021 08:55am

wrong. it was a german company, biontech, that developed the first vaccine - without any financing through "operation warp speed", but substantial funding by the german government. you're welcome.

I haven't looked into the issue of vaccine distribution much, but simply from an optics perspective, Biden has taken COVID seriously from the beginning(he tweeted in December 2019 that we weren't prepared for a pandemic), and Trump has not. There's mountains of evidence showing this.

And what's weird is how Trump didn't lean into taking credit for the vaccine. He could've gotten his vaccine shot on television... he could've went on Fox and talk radio multiple times to promote the "Trump vaccines". Doing so probably would've made a serious dent in right-wing vaccine skepticism. Instead, he promoted COVID skepticism, and tried to steal an election.

This post was edited by IceMage on Apr 14 2021 09:10am

Pfizer and modena are responsible for their vaccines, and they said trump had nothing to do with their developments.




Dude what a terrible loser.

I wonder if the reelection was the first time he was ever told "no".

This post was edited by Skinned on Apr 14 2021 09:08am

That specific vaccine was developed in a partnership with Pfizer a US pharma company. Don't feel like looking up each company's stakes in the vaccine but I'm sure Pfizer's stake is significant.



Pfizer didn't accept the grants because they didn't want the government to have equity and essentially diluting the profits they can make.

That doesn't change the fact that they still got billion-dollar contracts for their vaccine through warpspeed. Warp speed wasn't just about one or two specific companies, it was 22 B dollars that in one way or another led us here

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 14 2021 09:12am

Corporate sleight of hand.

Trump promised multibillion dollar contracts to buy vaccines.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Apr 14 2021 09:11am

?????

they teamed up with pfizer for logistics and manufacturing - the development (which you claimed was done by US corporations) was done in germany by a german company by german scientists with german funding, and had NOTHING to do with "operation warp speed". again, you're welcome - now stop spreading lies.

What lies am I spreading? Even if all you say is 100% true that doesn't change the fact that Pfizer is one of like a dozen vaccines so you trying to take credit as a German sounds really retarded. Most world governments spent money and resources on vaccine development and roll-out. Just because Germany did doesn't somehow minimize or negate what we did, what dumbass conclusions.



22 billion investment if you want an itemized description of how that helped I'm sure Google has some of this info but are we really going to pretend that no steps were taken by our government? Like lol.


This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 14 2021 09:19am

I think neoliberal globalists like myself should take some credit tbh.