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Jan 8 2021 06:31pm
Quote (thundercock @ 8 Jan 2021 19:25)
I mean, what Trump did that day was completely inexcusable and he should no longer be President. The fact that PENCE had to be the one to activate the National Guard is fucking insane. I imagine that Pence and the Cabinet told Trump that they have the votes and to just chill out at Camp David for the rest of his term. They appealed to his ego.

Personally, him resigning would have been the best thing to do because it would be out of his own volition. However, that apparently has zero chance of happening because Trump doesn't believe he did anything wrong. There is less accountability with the 25th Amendment and probably a shit ton of legal challenges so impeachment is the best option from here. It forces elected officials to be accountable to their constituents and they will have to take responsibility for their actions. If Republicans get voted out for voting to remove, so be it! If Republicans get voted out for NOT voting to remove, so be it! Congress needs to grow some balls.

agreed, but this will never happen because well, they dont have to. ‘we the people’ let them slide too far for too long

Trump like all Presidents come and go but some of those swamp demons on all sides of the political spectrum have been there long than you and i have been alive
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Jan 8 2021 07:25pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jan 9 2021 12:37am)
Theres going to be massive blowback. Your evil here with censorship wont be forgiven.


There's no censorship there.
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Jan 8 2021 07:29pm


Quote (thundercock @ Jan 8 2021 07:25pm)
I mean, what Trump did that day was completely inexcusable and he should no longer be President. The fact that PENCE had to be the one to activate the National Guard is fucking insane. I imagine that Pence and the Cabinet told Trump that they have the votes and to just chill out at Camp David for the rest of his term. They appealed to his ego.

Personally, him resigning would have been the best thing to do because it would be out of his own volition. However, that apparently has zero chance of happening because Trump doesn't believe he did anything wrong. There is less accountability with the 25th Amendment and probably a shit ton of legal challenges so impeachment is the best option from here. It forces elected officials to be accountable to their constituents and they will have to take responsibility for their actions. If Republicans get voted out for voting to remove, so be it! If Republicans get voted out for NOT voting to remove, so be it! Congress needs to grow some balls.


This is 5-year-old gaslighting. Get over your fucking self.

You cant accuse someone of having an opinion he never had, holy shit get a new argument.

Quote (BannyMcBannerson @ Jan 8 2021 08:25pm)
There's no censorship there.


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This post was edited by EndlessSky on Jan 8 2021 07:34pm
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Jan 8 2021 07:40pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jan 8 2021 05:29pm)


This is 5-year-old gaslighting. Get over your fucking self.

You cant accuse someone of having an opinion he never had, holy shit get a new argument.



Which part do you have an issue with?
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Jan 8 2021 07:43pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jan 8 2021 08:40pm)
Which part do you have an issue with?


The DC Security makes it an official policy to reduce their ground coverage because of BLM. And you have the Audacity to blame Trump even after he told people to remain peaceful. Its just silly.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Jan 8 2021 05:43pm)
The DC Security makes it an official policy to reduce their ground coverage because of BLM. And you have the Audacity to blame Trump even after he told people to remain peaceful. Its just silly.


He incited the riot in his speech at the WH. Did you listen to the whole thing? He may not be LEGALLY culpable (extremely high bar) but he absolutely is morally culpable. Clearly, most protestors were there peacefully. However, a small percentage of folks took his words as gospel and did what they did. Like you, a reasonable person, wouldn't have taken his words in such a violent way. But you're also not a frothing at the mouth Q supporter either.
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Jan 8 2021 08:04pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jan 8 2021 08:50pm)
He incited the riot in his speech at the WH. Did you listen to the whole thing? He may not be LEGALLY culpable (extremely high bar) but he absolutely is morally culpable. Clearly, most protestors were there peacefully. However, a small percentage of folks took his words as gospel and did what they did. Like you, a reasonable person, wouldn't have taken his words in such a violent way. But you're also not a frothing at the mouth Q supporter either.


The speech complained about a stolen election. You have TDS
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Jan 8 2021 08:06pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jan 8 2021 05:50pm)
He incited the riot in his speech at the WH. Did you listen to the whole thing? He may not be LEGALLY culpable (extremely high bar) but he absolutely is morally culpable. Clearly, most protestors were there peacefully. However, a small percentage of folks took his words as gospel and did what they did. Like you, a reasonable person, wouldn't have taken his words in such a violent way. But you're also not a frothing at the mouth Q supporter either.


If he indeed did that. and I had to re-watch it to make sure - then Twitter should have banned that video along with all the other posts they banned that day

But it was left up until a few hours ago or w/e
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Jan 8 2021 08:14pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jan 8 2021 06:04pm)
The speech complained about a stolen election. You have TDS


https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-save-america-rally-transcript-january-6

"Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. After this, we’re going to walk down and I’ll be there with you. We’re going to walk down. We’re going to walk down any one you want, but I think right here. We’re going walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators, and congressmen and women. We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong."

"So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, I love Pennsylvania Avenue, and we’re going to the Capitol and we’re going to try and give… The Democrats are hopeless. They’re never voting for anything, not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones, because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country."

C'mon man. If you don't think a small percentage of nutcases could interpret the above wrongly, you're living in a bubble. As I said before, I don't think you can hold Trump LEGALLY accountable for this. But you can't deny that this speech added a shit ton of fuel to the fire.
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Jan 8 2021 08:16pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jan 8 2021 08:14pm)
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-save-america-rally-transcript-january-6

"Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. After this, we’re going to walk down and I’ll be there with you. We’re going to walk down. We’re going to walk down any one you want, but I think right here. We’re going walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators, and congressmen and women. We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong."

"So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, I love Pennsylvania Avenue, and we’re going to the Capitol and we’re going to try and give… The Democrats are hopeless. They’re never voting for anything, not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones, because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country."

C'mon man. If you don't think a small percentage of nutcases could interpret the above wrongly, you're living in a bubble. As I said before, I don't think you can hold Trump LEGALLY accountable for this. But you can't deny that this speech added a shit ton of fuel to the fire.


On top of that reports are that he was calling senators to overturn election while his mob was storming the capitol
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