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it's not just trump, it's (almost) the whole party:





remember when the 'centrists' / establishment shills acted like AOC suggesting we should remember who sided with trump was some kind of 'fascist' idea? yeah, they are always strangely quiet about actual authoritarianism...
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Quote (fender @ 6 Dec 2020 18:02)
it's not just trump, it's (almost) the whole party:

https://i.imgur.com/sX8eZb7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4pGzfHh.png

remember when the 'centrists' / establishment shills acted like AOC suggesting we should remember who sided with trump was some kind of 'fascist' idea? yeah, they are always strangely quiet about actual authoritarianism...


False equivalence. Primarying elected officials from your own party who have fallen out of favor with its own electorate is a legitimate action and a central principle of democracy. Keeping lists of your enemies so they can be targetted and punished by authoritarian, encroaching government action once you're in power is not.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 6 2020 11:29am)
False equivalence. Primarying elected officials from your own party who have fallen out of favor with its own electorate is a legitimate action and a central principle of democracy. Keeping lists of your enemies so they can be targetted and punished by authoritarian, encroaching government action once you're in power is not.


Can you cite where she said they should be targeted and punished in a way that isn't akin to political targeting like a primary is?

Because I only ever saw the tweet which said nothing objectionable and then a ton of butt hurt right wingers pretending she wants to send them to Gulags

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 6 Dec 2020 18:29)
False equivalence. Primarying elected officials from your own party who have fallen out of favor with its own electorate is a legitimate action and a central principle of democracy. Keeping lists of your enemies so they can be targetted and punished by authoritarian, encroaching government action once you're in power is not.


and that's why you're nothing but a hack. that's EXACTLY the same dumb and baseless claim you made last time i pointed out that holding government officials accountable for their record is not the same as your ridiculous authoritarian fantasies. just because that's what YOU or trump would do, doesn't mean that's what stable and sane humans want...
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Can you cite where she said they should be targeted and punished in a way that isn't akin to political targeting like a primary is?

Because I only ever saw the tweet which said nothing objectionable and then a ton of butt hurt right wingers pretending she wants to send them to Gulags


The intention is crystal clear and easy to see for anyone who doesnt actively turn a blind eye to it. Not necessarily gulags, but retaliation using all means available, including those outside of the standard small-d democratic toolbox.

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The intention is crystal clear and easy to see for anyone who doesnt actively turn a blind eye to it. Not necessarily gulags, but retaliation using all means available, including those outside of the standard small-d democratic toolbox.


:rofl:

You are so full of shit. "Its so obvious why doesnt anybody see it!"

Youre literally doing the same thing you used to do to Trump except instead of going out of your way for a positive interpretation you're pretending AOC is Stalin

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:rofl:

You are so full of shit. "Its so obvious why doesnt anybody see it!"


Then tell me, for which other purpose should Democrats like AOC want to keep a list of Trump supporters/"enablers"?

The only potential reason I could see is future attack ads associating Republican candidates with an electoral stinker. But that's not gonna work in this case right here since Trump is still wildly popular with the GOP base and came really close to winning the 2020 race. It's not like he leaves office as a figure which is toxic on both sides of the aisle like GWB was. Are they gonna run ads in 2023 tying, say, Nikki Haley to Trump? "Nikki Haley is serious-minded, polite and sober in tone, but back in 2017, she was willing to work with Trump. See how crazy she must be?"

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Then tell me, for which other purpose should Democrats like AOC want to keep a list of Trump supporters/"enablers"?

The only potential reason I could see is future attack ads associating Republican candidates with an electoral stinker. But that's not gonna work in this case right here since Trump is still wildly popular with the GOP base and came really close to winning the 2020 race. It's not like he leaves office as a figure which is toxic on both sides of the aisle like GWB was. Are they gonna run ads in 2023 tying, say, Nikki Haley to Trump? "Nikki Haley is serious-minded, polite and sober in tone, but back in 2017, she was willing to work with Trump. See how crazy she must be?"


Yes lol

Thats exactly what it is. They can impose political consequences, remind people of their Trump support if he falls out of favor, and remind the moderates they enabled Trump, keep them off important committees since they showed themselves to be bad faith actors, etc.

You have gone out of your way to make up shit to criticize AOC since literally the day she was elected and this is just a continuation of that.

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