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Jun 6 2016 09:53pm
Quote (Beowulf @ 6 Jun 2016 22:41)
If you buy into the he never had a shot fairy tale and fail to hold him accountable for his shitty second half campaign

I believe he had a shot and his loss is on him


I don't think you are considering important factors and recent political history.

Perhaps he had a ~5 to 10% chance perhaps in Vegas at one point but those odds were almost all tied to Hillary going down due to the email scandal or an indictment, not via delegates or votes.

I think you should look at the party endorsement and superdelegate totals Hillary had before she announced in April 2015 and compare them to other recent candidates for president.

Besides, the second half of his campaign has actually been more successful than his first when you're considering primsry contests won, so you don't have all your facts straight. He got annhilated on March 15th but won most of his states in the following weeks and months.

He's done better recently than he did in the beginning.
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Jun 6 2016 10:04pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ 6 Jun 2016 19:53)
I don't think you are considering important factors and recent political history.

Perhaps he had a ~5 to 10% chance perhaps in Vegas at one point but those odds were almost all tied to Hillary going down due to the email scandal or an indictment, not via delegates or votes.

I think you should look at the party endorsement and superdelegate totals Hillary had before she announced in April 2015 and compare them to other recent candidates for president.

Besides, the second half of his campaign has actually been more successful than his first when you're considering primsry contests won, so you don't have all your facts straight. He got annhilated on March 15th but won most of his states in the following weeks and months.

He's done better recently than he did in the beginning.


I think that the second half was in large part because of the grand successes of the first half that really raised his profile and made him a much more viable candidate, and think that the second half has been much more of a bitter old man having a shout than doing anything that has a chance at positive results.

If he could have pulled even with minority voters, Superdelegates would be switching up all over the place. Hell, even if he'd only closed the gap a bit.
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Jun 6 2016 10:06pm
Quote (excellence @ Jun 6 2016 10:41pm)
agreed thanks for supporting the orange warrior's point.


Clearly you aren't following.
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Jun 7 2016 04:57am
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Jun 7 2016 05:20am
Quote (ThatAlex @ Jun 6 2016 10:26pm)
I think it was over before it even began. It was over in like 2014.

She had historic levels of party support and endorsements before she announced. She dominated the "invisible primary."

The only person in recemt history that can rival her in invisible primary dominance is George W. Bush (2000). But even she has him beat.


Yeah she is basically our Mitt Romney.

Quote (EA7 @ Jun 7 2016 05:57am)


Why are you guys such liars?

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In March 2011 Forbes estimated Donald Trump's net worth to be $2.7 billion, with a $60 million salary. Many praise and analyze his “success” as if it were self-made, and they fail to attribute the proper credit to others in society where it is deserved. Despite what Trump may espouse, his success would have been in no way possible without his father, the general public, and the US government. Unfortunately, Trump decided to forget or selectively ignore these truths while forming his political philosophy, a sentiment made particularly clear during his brief bid for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.

Trump was born in New York City in 1946, the son of real estate tycoon Fred Trump. Fred Trump’s business success not only provided Donald Trump with a posh youth of private schools and economic security but eventually blessed him with an inheritance worth an estimated $40 million to $200 million. It is critical to note, however, that his father’s success, which granted Donald Trump such a great advantage, was enabled and buffered by governmental financing programs. In 1934, while struggling during the Great Depression, financing from the Federal Housing Administration (FHA) allowed Fred Trump to revive his business and begin building a multitude of homes in Brooklyn, selling at $6,000 apiece. Furthermore, throughout World War II, Fred Trump constructed FHA-backed housing for US naval personnel near major shipyards along the East Coast.


He got fat as a kid off of government cheese lol.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jun 7 2016 05:23am
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Jun 7 2016 05:23am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 6 2016 07:41pm)
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-latinos-idUSKCN0YS2BV



Congratulations on being part of the "some trump supporters" listed.





Damn, I got inb4'd


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The latest liberal lie is that the La Raza Lawyers Association is completely separate from La Raza. But on the La Raza Lawyers website, they link to La Raza on their sidebar. See for yourself: Go to http://sdlrla.com/ and look under community for "National Counsel of La Raza".
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Jun 7 2016 05:24am
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People are allowed to be a part of associations. Don't tell me you are just jumping on the bandwagon of this pathetic racial attack on this judge?

This is like bashing Donald Trump for being member of a country club.

You guys don't even know what the fuck La Raza is. It is just an idea, not an actual group.

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Jun 7 2016 05:27am
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People are allowed to be a part of professional associations. Don't tell me you are just jumping on the bandwagon of this pathetic racial attack on this judge?


Mexican is not a race but let's play pretend here and tell me what is racist in this scenario?

I was quoting Thor123422 where he said the two associations are not linked and it only takes a visit to their website to see that they are.
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Jun 7 2016 05:29am
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Mexican is not a race but let's play pretend here and tell me what is racist in this scenario?

I was quoting Thor123422 where he said the two associations are not linked and it only takes a visit to their website to see that they are.


"La Raza" means "The Race" and it is like calling yourself white or a white person.

It isn't a dues paying group lol.

It is short for "La Raza Hispánica".

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Quote (Skinned @ Jun 7 2016 03:29am)
"La Raza" means "The Race" and it is like calling yourself white or a white person.


yes I understand basic Spanish
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