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Aug 17 2023 10:04pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Aug 17 2023 08:53pm)
I didn't say humans magically started existing. But I do recall that Christians claim that God created Adam from dust and breathed life into him or whatever. This is incompatible with evolution. Sorry.


Quote (El1te @ Aug 17 2023 08:56pm)
Adam & Eve is an allegory, not literal


living systems resemble technology more than anything else at a molecular level they even call the stuff machines and dna is called a language.

science has zero answers. people believe what they want to believe

whats most curious is the scripture narrative is unchallenged by the 'science. depends though what your going to call science

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Aug 17 2023 10:08pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Aug 17 2023 08:59pm)
You can't pick and choose parts of bible to disbelieve when they don't suit your narrative.

I thought Christians believed that the bible is divinely inspired words of God. That it's inerrant.


depends which 'christians your talking to.

understand though, christianity is mostly about a change of heart more than it is anything else
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Aug 17 2023 10:12pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Aug 17 2023 08:59pm)
You can't pick and choose parts of bible to disbelieve when they don't suit your narrative.

I thought Christians believed that the bible is divinely inspired words of God. That it's inerrant.


It's not picking and choosing

You're just not intelligent if you aren't able to discern allegory from historical narration
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Aug 17 2023 10:13pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Aug 17 2023 09:04pm)
living systems resemble technology more than anything else at a molecular level they even call the stuff machines and dna is called a language.

science has zero answers. people believe what they want to believe

whats most curious is the scripture narrative is unchallenged by the 'science. depends though what your going to call science


Indeed they do, living systems are designed by God like little clocks, absolutely wonderful His creations are
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Aug 17 2023 10:17pm
Quote (El1te @ Aug 17 2023 09:12pm)
It's not picking and choosing

You're just not intelligent if you aren't able to discern allegory from historical narration


There is no need to call me dumb just because I pointed out an inconvenient truth.

Question for you: what other parts of the bible are also allegories and are therefore not to be taken literally?
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Aug 18 2023 07:43pm
"Chateau Government 'shooting' sheeple";
and the dragon gave power unto the beast:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aladdin_(BlackRock)

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Monkey boy describing himself with a (photoshopped to look human) picture of himself.
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Quote (JessiWan @ Aug 17 2023 09:17pm)
There is no need to call me dumb just because I pointed out an inconvenient truth.

Question for you: what other parts of the bible are also allegories and are therefore not to be taken literally?


Pick something and quote it and I'll tell you

it's not very hard. Any extravagant story that defies the laws of physics your best bet is that its an allegory. Any basic historical reference is as such. It's really not hard
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Quote (El1te @ 19 Aug 2023 01:30)
Pick something and quote it and I'll tell you

it's not very hard. Any extravagant story that defies the laws of physics your best bet is that its an allegory. Any basic historical reference is as such. It's really not hard


We've only known the laws of physics as we do for a few hundred years at best. Some of them much less. This means that anything in the bible which contradicts those physics impaired our ability to find and understand them. It means anyone taking that strategy in examination of the bible for a good millennia was hopelessly handicapped simply because they didn't know about gravity (the math not the 'force' itself), electromagnetism, and the nuclear forces; let alone cells or molecules or elements (elements by todays definition).

It is even possible there are still physics we haven't found which will make other biblical claims impossible (though that is exceptionally unlikely in my view, it could happen). We can't trust anything is literal. Even some of the history. Much of the history is well supported but not all of it is. The unfortunate fact is that history gets erased and even if all the history in the bible were true we'd never be able to find enough evidence to say so with confidence.

The problem with using the bible in that way is we constantly have to reevaluate the bible as our knowledge increases. What good is it if we're constantly reevaluating it? I would think god would commission a book that was true no matter when you read it, and the more you knew of the universe the more truth would be confirmed. Not the more you had to discard as allegorical.
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Quote (Vastet @ Aug 18 2023 11:15pm)
We've only known the laws of physics as we do for a few hundred years at best. Some of them much less. This means that anything in the bible which contradicts those physics impaired our ability to find and understand them. It means anyone taking that strategy in examination of the bible for a good millennia was hopelessly handicapped simply because they didn't know about gravity (the math not the 'force' itself), electromagnetism, and the nuclear forces; let alone cells or molecules or elements (elements by todays definition).

It is even possible there are still physics we haven't found which will make other biblical claims impossible (though that is exceptionally unlikely in my view, it could happen). We can't trust anything is literal. Even some of the history. Much of the history is well supported but not all of it is. The unfortunate fact is that history gets erased and even if all the history in the bible were true we'd never be able to find enough evidence to say so with confidence.

The problem with using the bible in that way is we constantly have to reevaluate the bible as our knowledge increases. What good is it if we're constantly reevaluating it? I would think god would commission a book that was true no matter when you read it, and the more you knew of the universe the more truth would be confirmed. Not the more you had to discard as allegorical.


no secret some will be prepared with endless arguments. science doesnt trouble scripture. you imagination isnt science
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