Quote (FantasyWorldII @ 16 Jun 2022 03:09)
I have such malicious intent... to want to let others know that it is possible to live without shootings around you. And I have to yet see a concentration camp in Sydney... what a ridiculous thing to say XD
What lack of free speech? I can say whatever I want and as long as it doesn't lead to violence, I am 100% allowed to. In Australia anyone with a gun without special permit will get in trouble and yes it is very hard to get one and you most likely get caught.
I can make a gun. Millions of Americans can make a gun. I can make shell casings. I can make bullets. I can load the casings. Quite literally, if I want a firearm, I can make one, and you cannot stop me.
This idea that you are magically going to make guns disappear is bullshit, and the fact is that there are 3.5 million registered firearms in Australia, with estimated millions more that are unregistered or illegal puts the lie to your claim.
All Australia's laws have done is insure that only the criminals, the government, and those who are rich enough to jump through the hoops to pay the government for the "privilege" of self-preservation can own a firearm.
Meanwhile, you have no answer as to how any gun control would have prevented this shooting. In fact, you can't even answer more basic questions... How did an 18 year old who'd only been working part time for a few months at a fast food joint afford between $7,000 and $9,000 worth of firearms, ammunition, spare magazines, and body armor? He hadn't earned that much money. That's number one. Second, how did he manage to make even a single debit purchase of a firearm, let alone multiple? The purchase price was over $2000, yet the daily spending limit on debit cards from nearly all banks starts out at $500-$1000, and it takes both a financial history with the bank and several years to get that raised anywhere near $2K, let alone more. How did he dodge the spending limits? Third, after shooting his grandmother in the face, he stole a truck and tried to crash it into people. If he's going to steal a truck, what makes you think that he wouldn't steal firearms? Last, why is it that the authorities who're tasked with immediately engaging active shooters refused to engage for an hour, and prevented parents from rescuing their children, effectively aiding and abetting in the murders of 19 children?
Attempting to utilize this incident as proof for the need for gun control ignores quite literally all the facts:
1. Legislation was passed back in 1990 that prevented teachers, administration, and other staff, as well as parents from carrying firearms onto public K-12 school property. It is a federal felony. Our current President spearheaded that legislation, btw.
2. The police actively prevented parents from rescuing their own children, or confronting the shooter, armed or not.
3. As pointed out, the money doesn't track, and inDUHviduals such as yourself aren't asking for an in-depth investigation, you're calling for unrelated legislation that wouldn't have helped?
4. The city with the strictest gun control in the United States, where it's nearly impossible to obtain a weapon, where self-preservation is not a valid "excuse" for a weapon would be DC, followed swiftly by Chicago. There are shootings in both cities on a daily basis. How?
As to the last bit, if you have hate speech laws, you have no freedom of speech. And there were no Concentration Camps in Berlin, does that mean the Nazis didn't use them?
As I said, malicious intent.
