IMO that's going to be what happens to hispanics. They'll eventually be seen as more "white" and incorporated the way the Irish were.

I also expect hispanics to eventually start being perceived, and identify, as white. If they also start voting as such, similar to the Italians and Irish starting from the 70s, then that would thwart all the Democratic dreams about an "emerging (permanent, demography-based) majority".

Really speaks to the concept of whiteness being one built out of what groups are excluded, not which are included.

Eh, I dont know.


Anyway, I think interracial marriage and the effect it is having on both the social ties between communities and also on the looks play a role. A lot of the white-asian, white-hispanic and even white-black interracial babies look a lot more "white" than their non-white parents, so by the "colorism" concept, they are automatically bound to face less discrimination. Think Steph Curry vs Patrick Beverley.

Also, the more generations pass, the higher the share of non-whites who did not grow up in poverty and/or ghettos. People internalize the habitus of the socioeconomic environment they grew up in - and those from the ghetto will carry some subtle, subconscious mannerisms or cloth/style choices which nonverbally signal their background. Just think of all the rappers who intentionally play up these things so that they look more "gangsta" or street tough. I think this stuff plays a significant role in discrimination, and once a larger share of the non-white youth grows up in middle-class neighborhoods, discrimination rates will automatically go down, even if the underlying mechanisms of discrimination remain the same.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 3 2021 01:39am

A lot of Irish were brought to America as slaves, but now the blacks have monopoly on being slaves and all.

Italians as well.

But blacks are the most priviledged group in America and they can rewrite history.

An excellent article from the NYTimes, arguing sharply against the identitarian left and the push for CRT, 'equity' instead of 'equality', "antiracist discrimination" and all that crap:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/28/opinion/racism-antiracism-discrimination.html

It's really a perfect summary of why these concepts should be rejected. That such a piece, which is indirectly criticizing the rhetorical focus of the Biden admin, was published in the unabashedly liberal and Democrat-friendly NYTimes is really telling.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 3 2021 04:41am

anyone slightly objective can see the left is contorting reality with these tools.

I read the other day on LinkedIn why is positive discrimination wrong as in it's not. lol.

these pro-CRT forces reallie want to bring back “separate but equal”, discrimination based on traits people cannot control, and that ‘segregation is good integration is racist’ again.

The Chinese are laughing at this hell world the boomers created.

that's the thing, china comes to UN councils and trolls biden and his weak hirelings. while the left in the USA are like yeah yeah China is right, we are so bad at human rights and all. China complains about USA human rights. lmao.