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Dec 23 2019 01:05pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Dec 23 2019 12:54pm)
You better read business insider south africa:


https://www.businessinsider.co.za/poll-52-of-americans-support-trumps-impeachment-and-removal-2019-12

Fifty-two percent of respondents in the latest poll also supported removing Trump from office.


"Business insider South Africa" uses the exact same source as your first link, which is ONE poll out of many. Ghot's link is the average of all the polls taken.
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Dec 23 2019 01:08pm
Trump is a symptom of the legacy of racism in this country, not the cause. What would removing him do, exactly? Promote Pence to add a flare of homophobia for the final 1-5 years?

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Quote (Santara @ 23 Dec 2019 20:05)
"Business insider South Africa" uses the exact same source as your first link, which is ONE poll out of many. Ghot's link is the average of all the polls taken.


Opinions change, you should know it since your last presidential elections.

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Trump is a symptom of the legacy of racism in this country, not the cause. What would removing him do, exactly? Promote Pence to add a flare of homophobia for the final 1-5 years?


It's more than simple racism, it's faked values.

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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Dec 23 2019 01:25pm)
It more than simple racism, it fake values.


I think that too stems from racism. You don’t have to be Simon Legree to be racist. They have fake values because their real values are no longer politically correct... then everyone just debates the fake values and keeps the debate away from the real issue, racism.

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Quote (Interesting @ 23 Dec 2019 21:31)
I think that too stems from racism. You don’t have to be Simon Legree to be racist. They have fake values because their real values are no longer politically correct... then everyone just debates the fake values and keeps the debate away from the real issue, racism.


What i see here is more than racism ... All this is the reward of exacerbate individualism, faked values are from those, extremely wealthy, rallying about "goood", "freeedom" and "taaaaxes". This song is arranging them since the beginning.

Imagine if real citizen start to take over, build centralized healthcare system or impose processed food regulations, environment... Nah... Trump represent his own scam.
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Quote (theCrossbones @ Dec 23 2019 12:45am)
were getting closer to irrelevant than most EU countries.. If it wasn't for our economy size. We would just be a "shithole"
NOBODY trusts us. We are the global fat retarded kid


Yeah and if it wasn't for my giant dick, I'd have a little dick.

*golfclap. "We" aren't anything. You are.
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Dec 23 2019 01:54pm)
You better read business insider south africa:


https://www.businessinsider.co.za/poll-52-of-americans-support-trumps-impeachment-and-removal-2019-12

Fifty-two percent of respondents in the latest poll also supported removing Trump from office.


48 or 52 either is just batshit crazy
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Quote (excellence @ Dec 23 2019 08:40am)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrsdLgBGjsk

if if if if if if if if okie doke 2.0


whataboutism BS with Pelosi when defending trump..
LOL the idiot can't even speak english..
WTF>> go get some cancer from a windmill..
oh wait....
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Dec 24 2019 12:08am
no wonder trump did everything in his power to obstruct the impeachment process and instruct his administration to defy congress and not testify (while ironically claiming their side wasn't given a chance to speak):

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/475600-trump-aides-tasked-with-carrying-out-ukraine-funding-freeze-shortly

"Given the sensitive nature of the request, I appreciate your keeping that information closely held to those who need to know to execute direction," Duffey added."

so that's what they really thought about his 'perfect call'. just further illustrates what a joke republicans in congress are, how dishonest their excuses and deflections are. every single one of them knows what trump did was illegal and wrong, but they all put party loyalty above the constitution - what a despicable bunch.
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Quote (fender @ Dec 24 2019 01:08am)
no wonder trump did everything in his power to obstruct the impeachment process and instruct his administration to defy congress and not testify (while ironically claiming their side wasn't given a chance to speak):

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/475600-trump-aides-tasked-with-carrying-out-ukraine-funding-freeze-shortly

"Given the sensitive nature of the request, I appreciate your keeping that information closely held to those who need to know to execute direction," Duffey added."

so that's what they really thought about his 'perfect call'. just further illustrates what a joke republicans in congress are, how dishonest their excuses and deflections are. every single one of them knows what trump did was illegal and wrong, but they all put party loyalty above the constitution - what a despicable bunch.




This information is nothing new and we all knew this.



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"Based on guidance I have received and in light of the Administration's plan to review assistance to Ukraine, including the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, please hold off on any additional DoD obligations of these funds, pending direction from that process," Duffey wrote to OMB and Pentagon officials on July 25.

"Given the sensitive nature of the request, I appreciate your keeping that information closely held to those who need to know to execute direction," Duffey added.




Trump himself has said he wanted to make sure Ukraine was NOT still corrupt. Personally I think it's a good idea to make sure of that before we hand over $391 million to a country.
This is just more Dem smoke and mirror crap.

What would you like on your nothing burger... this time?


/e Hell, even people that did testify in the House hearings, said Trump had said this.





/ee But not to worry Fender...

House counsel suggests Trump could be impeached again

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/23/doj-impeachment-vote-undercut-house-mcgahn-testimony-089604

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The House is open to the prospect of impeaching President Donald Trump a second time, lawyers for the Judiciary Committee said Monday.

House Counsel Douglas Letter said in a filing in federal court that a second impeachment could be necessary if the House uncovers new evidence that Trump attempted to obstruct investigations of his conduct. Letter made the argument as part of an inquiry by the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals into whether Democrats still need testimony from former White House counsel Don McGahn after the votes last week to charge Trump with abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.




I guess I sort of called this one, when we discussed why Pelosi was NOT send the articles of impeachment to the Senate. :D



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