I'm arguing for mandatory essential vaccinations for the whole population. No exceptions, except verifiable medical conditions like allergies or some such.


Edit: and even then, something needs to be done for those individuals.

This post was edited by hATemOnkEy on Apr 29 2015 05:24am

I am well aware of herd immunity and I didnt say vaccines were anti-biotics. You are fallaciously assuming I just must not be aware of the situation rather than admitting you were wrong and addressing my points.
A small minority of people being allowed to opt out remains as not some great threat to society as you crazily suggested, even if once in a great while there is an outbreak.
We currently have no forced requirement for the whole population and its not a significant problem.


Thats one type of vaccine requirement that is less intrusive.
Not everyone in this thread is talking about a public school requirement only when they are insisting that every last person must be vaccinated or else.



e/ See look we already have one maniac who thinks differently:


This post was edited by cambovenzi on Apr 29 2015 05:24am

The bible is the Christian handbook. Either you believe what it says or you don't. If you don't then you're not a christian.

Define essential in this context.

What points did I miss? The equation of mandatory vaccines with state violence and ultimately genocide? Yeah, that sounds completely insane.

There would be even less of a problem with outbreaks if everyone were to be vaccinated. The fact that you just dismiss preventable diseases reoccuring in the population seems extremely callous to me.

Also, you brought up antibiotic-resistant 'superbugs', not me.

The point about a few opt outs not being a significant threat to humanity, with incredibly small rates of occurrences and death despite your ridiculous assertion to the contrary.

Most of the citizens in the US who aren't school aged, are vaccinated, the struggle that is being debated is vaccinating children. I really think drawing adults into the picture ( at least here in the US.) would be a moot point. And by requiring public school attendees to receive the vaccines you would ensure enough of the population was vaccinated to curb any outbreak.

I'm not a doctor or virologist.

But I'd say safe and reliable vaccines for diseases that are highly contagious and might cause severe disfunction or death.


http://www.kindengezin.be/img/Vacc20140630.pdf

These is the basic vaccine-schedule for children in Belgium. Only the polio-vaccine is legally mandatory, but the rest are recommended and provided for free (except the rota-virus for some reason).

I wouldn't mind all of these being mandatory.

OK, so unlike the US where dozens of vaccines are mandatory, you only have one mandatory vaccine? What problems is your country experiencing with the other diseases?

350 new cases of mumps in one month in Gent last year where usually there are 0 (zero) for years, if not decades. All of them preventable.
Brought over from students from a country with less stringent vaccine distribution/larger groups of people refusing to get vaccinated.

I'm not even saying death is the only concern. These are highly contagious diseases that can cause large discomfort and disfunction. And they are easily preventable.