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Apr 26 2013 02:20pm
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especially when there are so many other cues like smell and appearance.



some ones listing all the times blind faith dosnt matter, so far we have duck, and wet paint signs.


I fail to see how wet paint signs and someone yelling duck can really relate to the importance and consequence of faith.
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Apr 26 2013 02:21pm
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I fail to see how wet paint signs and someone yelling duck can really relate to the importance and consequence of faith.



not faith, #1 Can You Really Trust The Bible? Blind faith in the bible.
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Apr 26 2013 02:22pm
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not faith, #1 Can You Really Trust The Bible? Blind faith in the bible.


Yes, and I still fail to see how such trivial and dull examples can relate to such a thing.
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Apr 26 2013 02:23pm
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Yes, and I still fail to see how such trivial and dull examples can relate to such a thing.


agreed, though why not prove the internal workings wrong as well?
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Apr 26 2013 02:39pm
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agreed, though why not prove the internal workings wrong as well?


What do you mean by that?
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Apr 26 2013 03:01pm
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How does this relate to faith again?


Allow me to paint you the allegory: Rather than a sign on the wall warning of wet paint, you have the Bible (the sign on the wall) warning you of potential consequences of actions (touching the wall). Instead of wet paint, juxtapose... let's say adultery. The Bible says thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife (the sign). Touching the wall to see if it's wet might be flirtation. You say it can't hurt if you just flirt, but you might just get that finger wet (figuratively and literally). The sign said don't do it, but you just had to anyways. You're better off just taking the sign at face value.
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Apr 26 2013 03:40pm
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Allow me to paint you the allegory: Rather than a sign on the wall warning of wet paint, you have the Bible (the sign on the wall) warning you of potential consequences of actions (touching the wall). Instead of wet paint, juxtapose... let's say adultery. The Bible says thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife (the sign). Touching the wall to see if it's wet might be flirtation. You say it can't hurt if you just flirt, but you might just get that finger wet (figuratively and literally). The sign said don't do it, but you just had to anyways. You're better off just taking the sign at face value.


Well, how can we take it at face value when we are the ones who do our own defining when it comes to terms with things such as morality? Should we trust a certain text not because we believe its true and tested it but because we should take it on blind faith? We accept a text, not because it said do not commit adultery and therefore should be accepted because it is partially written by divinity, but rather that it fits our common sense and view of the world. No one accepts the bible in a void. We accept the absurdities of the bible not because we simply should for the better of our life and others lives, but rather because we feel compelled to through intuition telling us that these allegories and supernatural events happened, and our reasoning telling us that this is the best path available. We might do so through other people, but, ultimately, the choice is up to us.
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Apr 26 2013 10:10pm
Quote (brmv @ Apr 26 2013 10:51pm)
did i ever say that i would not ask questions? that is your speciality, remember?


Yep.

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Well, how can we take it at face value when we are the ones who do our own defining when it comes to terms with things such as morality?  Should we trust a certain text not because we believe its true and tested it but because we should take it on blind faith?  We accept a text, not because it said do not commit adultery and therefore should be accepted because it is partially written by divinity, but rather that it fits our common sense and view of the world.  No one accepts the bible in a void.  We accept the absurdities of the bible not because we simply should for the better of our life and others lives, but rather because we feel compelled to through intuition telling us that these allegories and supernatural events happened, and our reasoning telling us that this is the best path available.  We might do so through other people, but, ultimately, the choice is up to us.


Nice, just when I was planning to pull everybody here back on track, you come along and do it for me. Oh the wonders of our glorious God and how he works through even those who oppose him!

Thanks to you, my heart is burning for God now more than ever!
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Apr 26 2013 10:53pm
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Thanks to you, my heart is burning for God now more than ever!

Pepto bismol ought to clear that right up. Unless heart is a euphemism, in which case you'll be needing some sort of antibiotic cream that has been approved for personal regions.
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Apr 26 2013 10:53pm
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in which case you'll be needing some sort of antibiotic cream
they have a cream for everything!

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