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Oct 11 2024 01:50pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Oct 11 2024 03:46pm)
yep, hospitals denied people health care because big pandemic was coming. could also be a factor in increased overall death rate. then PCR the corpse looking for that 'positive result.


They weren't denying people healthcare here, people just weren't going.

This post was edited by Shadowoffury on Oct 11 2024 01:51pm
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Oct 11 2024 02:19pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 11 2024 12:46pm)
Just to get a feel for the magnitudes we're talking about there: life expectancy is roughly 80 years, so as a very crude approximation, we can assume that rooooughly 1/80th of a country's population dies each year, or 1.25%. So yes, a sudden jump by 0.16% is significant and noteworthy. And that was in spite of drastic countermeasures which mitigated the impact from covid and also pushed down mortality from many other causes like traffic accidents, drug overdoses and so on and forth.

Was covid blown out of proportion by the governments and public health officials? Absolutely. Did our countermeasures go too far and cause gigantic collateral damage, socially and economically? Absolutely. Were the vaccines overhyped and underdelivering? Absolutely.

But none of this implies that covid wasn't a legitimate public health concern or that the vaccines were completely useless.


been along time since i have had a conversation like this. lets look at history
https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate
wow been a while since i looked at these numbers. wow look at the growth rate of 2024 thats a massive drop?
from 1988 - 2007 it kept going down
in 2008 the death rate started going up from 2017 increase death rate is almost a constant .1 percent?..........
i contend? ..........using this thing as a metric covid had no effect on death rate as the trend is pretty much unchanged
what is curious is why the death rate started increasing in 2008?

United States - Historical Death Rate Data
Year Death Rate Growth Rate
2024 9.226 0.590%
2023 9.172 1.070%
2022 9.075 1.090%
2021 8.977 1.090%
2020 8.880 1.120%
2019 8.782 1.120%
2018 8.685 1.220%
2017 8.580 1.240%
2016 8.475 1.270%
2015 8.369 1.270%
2014 8.264 1.290%
2013 8.159 0.090%
2012 8.152 0.090%
2011 8.145 0.090%
2010 8.138 0.090%
2009 8.131 0.090%
2008 8.124 -0.960%
2007 8.203 -0.950%
2006 8.282 -0.960%
2005 8.362 -0.940%
2004 8.441 -0.930%
2003 8.520 -0.330%
2002 8.548 -0.330%
2001 8.576 -0.310%
2000 8.603 -0.320%
1999 8.631 -0.320%
1998 8.659 -0.370%
1997 8.691 -0.360%
1996 8.722 -0.370%
1995 8.754 -0.350%
1994 8.785 -0.360%
1993 8.817 -0.310%
1992 8.844 -0.300%
1991 8.871 -0.300%
1990 8.898 -0.300%
1989 8.925 -0.300%
1988 8.952 0.280%
1987 8.927 0.270%
1986 8.903 0.280%
1985 8.878 0.270%
1984 8.854 0.280%
1983 8.829 -0.050%
1982 8.833 -0.050%
1981 8.837 -0.050%
1980 8.841 -0.050%
1979 8.845 -0.050%
1978 8.849 -1.230%
1977 8.959 -1.210%
1976 9.069 -1.190%
1975 9.178 -1.180%
1974 9.288 -1.170%
1973 -0.410%
1972 9.437 -0.410%
1971 9.476 -0.420%
1970 9.516 -0.410%
1969 9.555 -0.410%
1968 9.594 0.310%
1967 9.564 0.310%
1966 9.534 0.330%
1965 9.503 0.320%
1964 9.473 0.320%
1963 9.443 0.070%
1962 9.436 0.070%
1961 9.429 0.060%
1960 9.423 0.070%
1959 9.416 0.070%
1958 9.409 -0.320%
1957 9.439 -0.320%
1956 9.469 -0.320%
1955 -0.310%
1954 9.529 -0.310%
1953 9.559 -0.310%
1952 9.589 -0.310%
1951 9.619 -0.310%
1950 9.649 0.000%

"Jesus... What Happened To Us?" by Five Times August (YouTube Edit)


This post was edited by TiStuff on Oct 11 2024 02:24pm
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Quote (Shadowoffury @ Oct 11 2024 12:50pm)
They weren't denying people healthcare here, people just weren't going.


i had a family member denied. they told him it was the non-intrusive kind of cancer. it ended badly.

lot of people exposed hospitals were empty at the same time fake news reported they were overflowing. covid was the biggest crime in world history

This post was edited by TiStuff on Oct 11 2024 02:26pm
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Quote (TiStuff @ Oct 11 2024 04:25pm)
i had a family member denied. they told him it was the non-intrusive kind of cancer. it ended badly.

lot of people exposed hospitals were empty at the same time fake news reported they were overflowing. covid was the biggest crime in world history


lol I'd probably argue the great leap forward, but different strokes I guess
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Oct 11 2024 03:03pm
Quote (Shadowoffury @ Oct 11 2024 01:50pm)
lol I'd probably argue the great leap forward, but different strokes I guess


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Quote (TiStuff @ Oct 11 2024 05:03pm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0kEwTi27xI


If someone suggested we do that at my workplace they would quickly become the victim of the greatest crime in world history
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Quote (TiStuff @ Oct 11 2024 01:19pm)
been along time since i have had a conversation like this. lets look at history
https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate
wow been a while since i looked at these numbers. wow look at the growth rate of 2024 thats a massive drop?
from 1988 - 2007 it kept going down
in 2008 the death rate started going up from 2017 increase death rate is almost a constant .1 percent?..........
i contend? ..........using this thing as a metric covid had no effect on death rate as the trend is pretty much unchanged
what is curious is why the death rate started increasing in 2008?

United States - Historical Death Rate Data
Year Death Rate Growth Rate
2024 9.226 0.590%
2023 9.172 1.070%
2022 9.075 1.090%
2021 8.977 1.090%
2020 8.880 1.120%
2019 8.782 1.120%
2018 8.685 1.220%
2017 8.580 1.240%
2016 8.475 1.270%
2015 8.369 1.270%
2014 8.264 1.290%
2013 8.159 0.090%
2012 8.152 0.090%
2011 8.145 0.090%
2010 8.138 0.090%
2009 8.131 0.090%
2008 8.124 -0.960%
2007 8.203 -0.950%
2006 8.282 -0.960%
2005 8.362 -0.940%
2004 8.441 -0.930%
2003 8.520 -0.330%
2002 8.548 -0.330%
2001 8.576 -0.310%
2000 8.603 -0.320%
1999 8.631 -0.320%
1998 8.659 -0.370%
1997 8.691 -0.360%
1996 8.722 -0.370%
1995 8.754 -0.350%
1994 8.785 -0.360%
1993 8.817 -0.310%
1992 8.844 -0.300%
1991 8.871 -0.300%
1990 8.898 -0.300%
1989 8.925 -0.300%
1988 8.952 0.280%
1987 8.927 0.270%
1986 8.903 0.280%
1985 8.878 0.270%
1984 8.854 0.280%
1983 8.829 -0.050%
1982 8.833 -0.050%
1981 8.837 -0.050%
1980 8.841 -0.050%
1979 8.845 -0.050%
1978 8.849 -1.230%
1977 8.959 -1.210%
1976 9.069 -1.190%
1975 9.178 -1.180%
1974 9.288 -1.170%
1973 -0.410%
1972 9.437 -0.410%
1971 9.476 -0.420%
1970 9.516 -0.410%
1969 9.555 -0.410%
1968 9.594 0.310%
1967 9.564 0.310%
1966 9.534 0.330%
1965 9.503 0.320%
1964 9.473 0.320%
1963 9.443 0.070%
1962 9.436 0.070%
1961 9.429 0.060%
1960 9.423 0.070%
1959 9.416 0.070%
1958 9.409 -0.320%
1957 9.439 -0.320%
1956 9.469 -0.320%
1955 -0.310%
1954 9.529 -0.310%
1953 9.559 -0.310%
1952 9.589 -0.310%
1951 9.619 -0.310%
1950 9.649 0.000%

"Jesus... What Happened To Us?" by Five Times August (YouTube Edit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjeceveczCc


This is damning evidence against "covid deaths"... Idk why he would choose to cherry pick just a couple of years of data in service of holding water for the regime, like why unless you're paid by them?

This post was edited by El1te on Oct 16 2024 06:22pm
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 11 2024 12:02pm)
I used overall death numbers specifically to avoid the "died with covid/died from covid" problem.

The only explanation El1te has for the sudden jump in overall death numbers during the covid years, which has come back down since then, is to claim that absolutely everything is an elaborate lie and conspiracy, meticulously planned months if not years in advance, with tens of thousands of co-conspirators who are all keeping their mouths shut.


You literally cherry-picked 6 years of data to argue that Covid caused more deaths, but shows the whole data and guess what... there is NO evidence of additional deaths attributable to Covid
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