Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 9 2021 06:14pm)

That's a fundamentally ignorant interpretation. The number of justices is not precedent nor is it based on precedent, and there is nothing unconstitutional in the slightest about changing the number of justices.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 9 2021 03:02pm)

It's a pretty obvious precursor for one branch of the government, controlled by a specific party to infringe upon another. Democrats aren't happy conservatives have control of the supreme court therefore they're trying to change a precedent that has been around since the 1870's.

Surprised your synapsis firing couldn't reach this conclusion.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 9 2021 05:24pm)

The court went to 9 justices in 1869. So that's 150 years of a standard of keeping the court at 9. The executive branch looking for ways to increase that number, which goes against 150 years worth of standard is an absolute overreach by that branch and it's specifically happening for partisan reasons.

Quote (thundercock @ Apr 9 2021 06:29pm)

Maybe you shouldn't use words you don't understand. It's perfectly constitutional because Congress sets the size of the Supreme Court. If it was unconstitutional, the number would never have changed. The number is set by statute, not precedent.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 9 2021 06:30pm)

The executive branch researching it is not an overreach in any conceivable way, and it is not unconstitutional in any conceivable way.

If Biden said "I'm going to try to executive order more justices onto the court", that would be an overreach. But just "researching adding more members" is not. It will still have to pass through congress and follow the same mechanism that happened in 1869.

You might not like it, but that doesn't make it unconstitutional.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 9 2021 05:36pm)

You're right. It's not unconstitutional but it is a severe overreach and challenges the balance of power, and for all the wrong reasons.

There's a chance that this committee is not all for show but will actually lay the groundwork for court-packing to happen. What if they come back and say it's totally fine and acceptable is Biden going to backpedal on trying to pack the court?

Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 9 2021 06:46pm)

The groundwork for court-packing to happen already exists. We already have a process for changing the number of Court members and changing how it's structured.

You're getting your panties twisted like you think he going to do it through executive order or something.

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Changes to the court are vehemently opposed by its current members, including Justice Stephen Breyer, the court's most senior liberal, who warned Tuesday that partisan proposals to expand the bench would hurt the institution's credibility.

"It is wrong to think of the Court as another political institution," Breyer said in remarks prepared for delivery at Harvard Law School. "And it is doubly wrong to think of its members as junior league politicians."

"Structural alteration motivated by the perception of political influence can only feed that perception, further eroding that trust," he said.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 9 2021 05:53pm)

Even if it goes to congress it's still an overreach because you have 2 branches trying to dilute the 3rd branch for political reasons.

Even the most liberal of justices agree.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 9 2021 06:59pm)

Except if the other two branches think the third branch needs to be changed or rained in that is there right and how the system is supposed to function

Checks and balances do not require the consent of the branch being checked.

Quote (ofthevoid @ 10 Apr 2021 00:36)

There's a chance that this committee is not all for show but will actually lay the groundwork for court-packing to happen. What if they come back and say it's totally fine and acceptable is Biden going to backpedal on trying to pack the court?

Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 9 2021 06:04pm)

rained in, lol.

In this case, assuming it goes through, it's pretty obvious that the 2 branches are stepping out of bounds and need to be rained in, not the one that's saying stick to rules that have been around for 150 years.