Indeed. If you suspect to have it, it's probably best for everyone if you just self-isolate for 2-3 weeks and not risk unintentionally exposing others in the hospital/the doctor's office/public transport on the way there. I would only recommend going to the hospital if the symptoms call for it.



A single-payer system isnt necessary for universal healthcare. In fact, there is plenty of historical precedent from all sorts of fields that government-run [anything] tends to be expensive and inefficient.

Dont get me wrong, a single-payer system would probably be cheaper than the unholy mess that is your current system, but I'm not sold on single-payer. For example, most of continental Europe does have a market-based system with for-profit insurances which are competing with each other - just within a tightly regulated market. And it's working really well, all things considered. Probably better than the NHS in the UK, which is the role-model of single-payer.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 20 2020 04:20pm

NHS is single payer but you can also get private insurance. That's what people don't get, they think single payer means they have to use the public option. You don't, you just have to pay for it.

/e the above seems 100% reason to test

I don't get it

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Apr 20 2020 05:16pm

Like I said, I've read the exact same reports from a variety of countries: people with all the symptoms being denied the test by their GP. Imho, it's really obvious what was going on: testing capacities were far too low, so the Departments of Health or some other higher-up government body ordered doctors to use tests sparingly and limit them to patients who are either hospitalized with the typical corona symptoms, or who came in contact with a confirmed case.

At the beginning of the epidemic yes, but in recent weeks...
His case seems so blatant, at this point he should have been clearly ordered to stay at home and to come back later for a test.

/google translate

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5.7% of French people will have been infected by May 11, according to an estimate by the Institut Pasteur
Only 5.7% of French people, or 3.7 million people, will have been infected with the new coronavirus by May 11, the day of the start of deconfinement, according to estimates presented in a prepublication of the Institut Pasteur, Tuesday April 21. A level that is very insufficient to avoid a second epidemic wave if all measures were completely lifted by this date. "For collective immunity to be sufficient to avoid a second wave, 70% of people with immunity would be needed. We are far below," said the study's lead author, Simon Cauchemez.
https://hal-pasteur.archives-ouvertes.fr/pasteur-02548181

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This is when everyone has to wear a mask....

/nb: i ordered Dark Green ones from a professional seamstress, thus it's fabric but still valid.



This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Apr 21 2020 12:21am

Hmm. I'd have preferred if estimation of current infection/immunity levels were done with antibody testing.

Maybe because it's not enough reliable yet ?

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/14/health/coronavirus-antibody-tests-scientists/index.html



I'm glad we gone from 7k to 5k active ICU here, some french people also have been taken in SWISS and LUXEMBOURG, probably because they were very close of the borders.
Like some in the "grand east" area and got send into Germany by... Helicopter.

That's dead bodies in the background ?

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Apr 21 2020 12:44am

Probably a deliberate PR move so that the Mediterranean countries have a harder time accusing Germany of a "lack of solidarity" over its rejection of coronabonds...