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Aug 27 2019 07:12am
Quote (dro94 @ 27 Aug 2019 13:31)
By referring to the EU as a single entity you are missing the key point that the economic impact of a no deal Brexit will vary significantly among the EU countries. A no deal Brexit to Ireland is actually likely to be worse than to the UK. Germany, France, Netherlands, Belgium, Italy and Spain will be adversely affected. The rest aren't big enough trading partners with the UK to really care.


i am not "missing" these details about a no-deal scenario, they are simply entirely irrelevant (which is the direct opposite of "key point" btw) to the point i was making, since EU countries don't negotiate individual agreements. i replied to someone who fantasised about the outcome of a potential no-deal brexit and specifically addressed two sides, the EU as a whole, and the UK:

Quote (Ghot @ 27 Aug 2019 11:43)
I dunno bro. I think the EU will suffer more than the UK in a no-deal brexit.

/e The UK has had dealings with so many countries thru the ages...they have "pull" in tons of countries. In the long run, I think the UK will be better off, back on their own.


we both know that's complete bs and wishful thinking, backed up by no logic, or any economic mechanism known to man - but i understand your urge to frame the whole issue in a more positive light...
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Aug 27 2019 08:29am
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i am not "missing" these details about a no-deal scenario, they are simply entirely irrelevant (which is the direct opposite of "key point" btw) to the point i was making, since EU countries don't negotiate individual agreements. i replied to someone who fantasised about the outcome of a potential no-deal brexit and specifically addressed two sides, the EU as a whole, and the UK:



we both know that's complete bs and wishful thinking, backed up by no logic, or any economic mechanism known to man - but i understand your urge to frame the whole issue in a more positive light...


Not at all dear, those urges are a fabrication. The EU’s trade with the UK is heavily concentrated among 6 or 7 which is relevant to the EU’s decision making, despite it still being preferable to the UK’s position.
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Aug 27 2019 08:34am
Quote (fender @ Aug 27 2019 09:12am)
i am not "missing" these details about a no-deal scenario, they are simply entirely irrelevant (which is the direct opposite of "key point" btw) to the point i was making, since EU countries don't negotiate individual agreements. i replied to someone who fantasised about the outcome of a potential no-deal brexit and specifically addressed two sides, the EU as a whole, and the UK:



we both know that's complete bs and wishful thinking, backed up by no logic, or any economic mechanism known to man - but i understand your urge to frame the whole issue in a more positive light...


How many times are you gonna quote the same post? Not that I care, just curious.

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Quote (Ghot @ 27 Aug 2019 16:34)
How many times are you gonna quote the same post? Not that I care, just curious.


if your reading comprehension was above kindergarten level, you'd realise it was part of my reply to dorothy. you have long bailed out of this after your ignorance was exposed, so feel free to stay uninvolved, please. the only thing you're contributing is unintentional humour anyway...

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Not at all dear, those urges are a fabrication. The EU’s trade with the UK is heavily concentrated among 6 or 7 which is relevant to the EU’s decision making, despite it still being preferable to the UK’s position.


again, we could certainly argue about that and go into detail about some of the points you made (which are largely fair btw, and certainly relevant in other contexts), but for the point i was making they are irrelevant.
fact is that it's borderline insane to predict that the EU as a whole would hurt more than the UK as a whole from a no-deal brexit - is that clear enough?
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Aug 27 2019 08:59am
Quote (fender @ Aug 27 2019 10:54am)
if your reading comprehension was above kindergarten level, you'd realise it was part of my reply to dorothy. you have long bailed out of this after your ignorance was exposed, so feel free to stay uninvolved, please. the only thing you're contributing is unintentional humour anyway...



again, we could certainly argue about that and go into detail about some of the points you made (which are largely fair btw, and certainly relevant in other contexts), but for the point i was making they are irrelevant.
fact is that it's borderline insane to predict that the EU as a whole would hurt more than the UK as a whole from a no-deal brexit - is that clear enough?




Why are you so angry all the time? Can't you just have a point of view, and leave the anger at home?





/e I'm still trying to figure out why if I'm incorrect in my assumption that brexit is great for the UK, but not so great for the EU... you, in Germany are so riled up about brexit.
I mean, why is the whole EU so riled up about brexit, if they are gonna be hurting, if it happens.

This post was edited by Ghot on Aug 27 2019 09:14am
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Aug 27 2019 09:09am
Quote (fender @ Aug 27 2019 03:54pm)
if your reading comprehension was above kindergarten level, you'd realise it was part of my reply to dorothy. you have long bailed out of this after your ignorance was exposed, so feel free to stay uninvolved, please. the only thing you're contributing is unintentional humour anyway...



again, we could certainly argue about that and go into detail about some of the points you made (which are largely fair btw, and certainly relevant in other contexts), but for the point i was making they are irrelevant.
fact is that it's borderline insane to predict that the EU as a whole would hurt more than the UK as a whole from a no-deal brexit - is that clear enough?


As you know, I wasn't disputing that.
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Aug 28 2019 02:54am
Brexit:


1/
Government to ask Queen to suspend Parliament
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632

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Labor opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn said he would do everything possible to prevent a Brexit without an agreement. Such an eventuality, he said, would put the UK at the mercy of President Donald Trump and US companies. The opposition parties announced on Tuesday a cooperation agreement to prevent a "no deal" after talks between Jeremy Corbyn, the Scottish National Party (SNP), the Liberal Democrats, the Green Party and the Independent group for change.
(http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/grande-bretagne-elisabeth-ii-peut-etre-invitee-a-suspendre-le-parlement-20190828)

So Meghan or Kate Middleton ? I prefer Kate.
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Aug 28 2019 04:36am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Aug 28 2019 09:54am)
Brexit:


1/
Government to ask Queen to suspend Parliament
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632

2/
Labor opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn said he would do everything possible to prevent a Brexit without an agreement. Such an eventuality, he said, would put the UK at the mercy of President Donald Trump and US companies. The opposition parties announced on Tuesday acooperation agreement to prevent a "no deal" after talks between Jeremy Corbyn, the Scottish National Party (SNP), the Liberal Democrats, the Green Party and the Independent group for change.
(http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/grande-bretagne-elisabeth-ii-peut-etre-invitee-a-suspendre-le-parlement-20190828)

So Meghan or Kate Middleton ? I prefer Kate.


Unbelievable. He can’t really think he’s going to get away with this. It’s the UK, not some despot regime. Hell is gonna break loose now
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Aug 28 2019 04:43am
UK's Johnson plans to restrict parliament time before Brexit

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-parliament-balmoral/uks-johnson-plans-to-restrict-parliament-time-before-brexit-idUSKCN1VI0TJ


Go Boris. !!




/e ...and I still think it will be better for the UK to just do it.

This post was edited by Ghot on Aug 28 2019 04:45am
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Aug 28 2019 05:15am
Quote (dro94 @ 28 Aug 2019 12:36)
Unbelievable. He can’t really think he’s going to get away with this. It’s the UK, not some despot regime. Hell is gonna break loose now


Maybe he's trying to force the Hard Brexit process to obtain "emergency" concessions from Europe. Basically all this is a bluff.
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