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Nov 2 2023 04:34pm
Quote (Crunkt @ 3 Nov 2023 00:33)
You know before 1948 Israel didnt exist?


Do you support hamas?
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Nov 2 2023 04:36pm
Quote (Crunkt @ Nov 2 2023 03:33pm)
You know before 1948 Israel didnt exist?


Palestine has never existed
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Nov 2 2023 04:37pm
Quote (El1te @ Nov 2 2023 03:29pm)
I agree that it's not constructive, or generally very valid, to discuss who the "rightful" owners of the land are.

I see it more pragmatically. The land belongs to whomever can claim it. The only rightful owners of the land are those who can maintain the strength of arms to claim the territory, which is Israel.


So....lets say there is a farmer who owns some land. If I can gather enough muscle and guns behind me, I can take his land by force? Because this is the corollary of your statement.

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Nov 2 2023 04:38pm
Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 2 2023 03:33pm)
He simply distract us from the subject which is Hamas terrorist organization which massacred 1000 civilians just because it could.
Organization that embedded itself in civilian population, that even Isis pale near their actions.
This brutal organization cannot sit on our borders.


Indeed, Hamas are very much the most subhuman, barbaric group of people that exist on the planet and that have existed in recent history... they make al Qaeda and ISIS look like the Partridge family. They must be extinguished from the world, they do not belong in a moral world, and have proven to the world as such
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Nov 2 2023 04:39pm
Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 2 2023 03:31pm)
Thats not true, and its irrelevant to the subject.
Muslims countries are one third of the world continent, Arab countries have more land than the entire continent of europe.
Arabs by definition came from the Arabian peninsula.
jews by definition came from Judea.

Gaza was once part of egypt and since 2005 its their land.
They chose to use violence and they are now paying the price.


I am not sure what you are trying to say.

Anyway, can you tell me why you think that parcel of land belongs to Israel?

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Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 2 2023 03:37pm)
So....lets say there is a farmer who owns some land. If I can gather enough muscle and guns behind me, I can take his land by force? Because this is the corollary of your statement.


Yes, you can.

If you can hold the land. What is likely to happen is that a powerful overlord (the US government) will come and take it back from you, and then grant that claim back to the original farmer.

This is literally how gangs and gang territory works. They control the territory when the police & government decide it's not worth their time to reclaim it.

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Quote (Many_Names @ 2 Nov 2023 18:34)
Do you support hamas?


Nope

I also don't support Thinking that just cuz a 4000 year old book says so that its okay to murder countless innocent civilians.

You know according to said book as soon as Israel completes its take over then all the jews go back to Israel and ascend into heaven

People of Israel have been raised and taught that Gaza is against god and in humane. To these people its completely okay because their enemy isn't even thought of as a human. Yes it goes both ways and thats sick. What is actually also sickening is the MSM being so straight faced when they talk about what is happening as if this is solely Israel defending herself and not at all in line with their ultimate plan as written in the book and propagandized for several generations which is to actually eliminate all of the Muslims from the holy land.

Hamas is bad and terrorist are bad so for sure they are idiots thrid world country smelly asshole idiots that have no fucking idea what they are up against so ya they are fucking stupid.

But when Israel soldiers and its people keep saying the quiet part out loud and you have children in the streets singing songs about people being murdered and being forced out of their homes its hard to pick a side and rather its easier to just choose a third side which is the side that is that guy smoking the bong in the meme with the chicks fighting and calling it all fucking stupid and laughing while I point out all the hypocrisy is that okay with you?

Also:


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Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 2 2023 03:34pm)
Do you support hamas?


Quote (Crunkt @ Nov 2 2023 03:40pm)
Nope

I also don't support Thinking that just cuz a 4000 year old book says so that its okay to murder countless innocent civilians.

You know according to said book as soon as Israel completes its take over then all the jews go back to Israel and ascend into heaven

People of Israel have been raised and taught that Gaza is against god and in humane. To these people its completely okay because their enemy isn't even thought of as a human. Yes it goes both ways and thats sick. What is actually also sickening is the MSM being so straight faced when they talk about what is happening as if this is solely Israel defending herself and not at all in line with their ultimate plan as written in the book and propagandized for several generations which is to actually eliminate all of the Muslims from the holy land.

Hamas is bad and terrorist are bad so for sure they are idiots thrid world country smelly asshole idiots that have no fucking idea what they are up against so ya they are fucking stupid.

But when Israel soldiers and its people keep saying the quiet part out loud and you have children in the streets singing songs about people being murdered and being forced out of their homes its hard to pick a side and rather its easier to just choose a third side which is the side that is that guy smoking the bong in the meme with the chicks fighting and calling it all fucking stupid and laughing while I point out all the hypocrisy is that okay with you?


"No, I don't, but here's why Hamas is right and justified"

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Quote (El1te @ 2 Nov 2023 18:41)
"No, I don't, but here's why Hamas is right and justified"

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that isnt what I wrote at all you literally didnt read it
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Nov 2 2023 04:42pm
Quote (El1te @ Nov 2 2023 03:39pm)
Yes, you can.

If you can hold the land. What is likely to happen is that a powerful overlord (the US government) will come and take it back from you, and then grant that claim back to the original farmer.

This is literally how gangs and gang territory works. They control the territory when the police & government decide it's not worth their time to reclaim it.


So you think people should act like gangs and try to take other people's property by force until they can't anymore.

I don't know about you but this really is no different than what an animal does. I hope that some of us are Homo Sapiens and we go by what is right, not who has might.

This post was edited by JessiWan on Nov 2 2023 04:42pm
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