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Apr 20 2020 10:33am
Quote (Skinned @ 20 Apr 2020 13:46)
Why are Trumptards demanding to fire Focci now?

They want to keep daily excuses and ass kissing circles, but fire the doctor?

Any Trumptards here wanna speak on this?

The amount of cases is growing seriously. States can't open on their own. Ohio does not have enough testing supplies. Trump says it is not his problem, he is going for one term apparently


Not that I consider myself a "trumptard", or condone the tone of your post, but I would still like to chime in since you were asking:

Hell no, Trump should absolutely not fire Fauci. Scapegoating Fauci would be a huge mistake. Imho, it would be Trump's jump the shark moment.



Regarding the discussion between you, thor and offthevoid:

The decision to open up the states should lie, and indeed does lie, with the respective governors. The federal government should do everything in its power to support the states in their efforts, for example by coordinating and/or funding a ramped up production of masks and tests. That's the area where the federal government could really make a difference. So far, it's failing to do that - and that's on Trump and his administration. More generally speaking, I really hate to see this egregious degree of partisanship and lack of acting in good faith while the country is in the middle of a pandemic.

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Had about four weeks of symptoms, started off mild. Got bad near the end of week 2. Lungs and chest hurt like crazy and the cough was bad, went to the hospital, got a million tests, all healthy, but didn't meet the requirements for a corona test at the time. Told me to quarantine and that it was likely a viral infection, possibly corona. Gave me a prescription for some cough medicine but I didn't bother with it. All gucci now, though.


Was very similar for me, albeit with a milder progress.

When I started feeling the symptoms (persistent dry cough, fever for the first two days, sore throat, generally feeling sick and weakened), my body relatively quickly got it under control, or so I thought. By the end of week 2, about 10-11 days after the first symptoms, the cough was getting really bad all of a sudden, and I could feel how my lung got affected. During the night from day 10 to day 11, at the worst moments, I had about 3 or so hours where my breathing got more difficult. For a brief moment, I really thought I had to go to the hospital the next morning. But then, it suddenly got much better, my immune system got it under control again. From there on out, symptoms were a lot more mild, but it took almost another 2 weeks until the dry cough was gone. So overall, it took me about 3.5 weeks to get rid of it.

Since I didnt get tested, I'm not entirely sure if it was corona, but the symptoms and the progression fit perfectly; and I had been exposed to a ton of people in the days before the first symptoms. So I'm very confident that it was indeed the coronavirus, which means that I should be immune now.

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Quote (Sakuraba @ Apr 20 2020 10:22am)
Had about four weeks of symptoms, started off mild. Got bad near the end of week 2. Lungs and chest hurt like crazy and the cough was bad, went to the hospital, got a million tests, all healthy, but didn't meet the requirements for a corona test at the time. Told me to quarantine and that it was likely a viral infection, possibly corona. Gave me a prescription for some cough medicine but I didn't bother with it. All gucci now, though.


>million tests, price tag probably 3-4 figures billed to your insurance

>corona test, $36 from CDC source


Now it's starting to make sense why there's this perpetual shortage of testing

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Was very similar for me, albeit with a milder progress.

When I started feeling the symptoms (persistent dry cough, fever for the first two days, sore throat, generally feeling sick and weakened), my body relatively quickly got it under control, or so I thought. By the end of week 2, about 10-11 days after the first symptoms, the cough was getting really bad all of a sudden, and I could feel how my lung got affected. During the night from day 10 to day 11, at the worst moments, I had about 3 or so hours where my breathing got more difficult. For a brief moment, I really thought I had to go to the hospital the next morning. But then, it suddenly got much better, my immune system got it under control again. From there on out, symptoms were a lot more mild, but it took almost another 2 weeks until the dry cough was gone. So overall, it took me about 3.5 weeks to get rid of it.

Since I didnt get tested, I'm not entirely sure if it was corona, but the symptoms and the progression fit perfectly; and I had been exposed to a ton of people in the days before the first symptoms. So I'm very confident that it was indeed the coronavirus, which means that I should be immune now.


yup very similar to how I felt. Never felt a sickness like that before either, it was just constant and felt like it would never go away. I assume it was corona, don't know what else it would have been, but can't be sure, since they wouldn't test me, because tests are for celebrities who take them for fun without feeling symptoms.

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>million tests, price tag probably 3-4 figures billed to your insurance

>corona test, $36 from CDC source


Now it's starting to make sense why there's this perpetual shortage of testing


The doctors there didn't even make the decision. They basically called up a lab or company, whoever is in charge of the corona tests and go over the symptoms reported and the tests done so far and then they decide over the phone. Doctor told me the requirement to get the test was to already have viral pneumonia, which I didn't have.
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>million tests, price tag probably 3-4 figures billed to your insurance

>corona test, $36 from CDC source


Now it's starting to make sense why there's this perpetual shortage of testing


i am glad that you're waking up to the fact that your healthcare system is a massive and cynical moneymaking scheme (just a shame you don't support anyone who would do something to change that), but in terms of corona, the main issue is the unavailability of reliable tests.
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Apr 20 2020 12:11pm
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I fucking hate these people. So fucking stupid.
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yup very similar to how I felt. Never felt a sickness like that before either, it was just constant and felt like it would never go away. I assume it was corona, don't know what else it would have been, but can't be sure, since they wouldn't test me, because tests are for celebrities who take them for fun without feeling symptoms.



The doctors there didn't even make the decision. They basically called up a lab or company, whoever is in charge of the corona tests and go over the symptoms reported and the tests done so far and then they decide over the phone. Doctor told me the requirement to get the test was to already have viral pneumonia, which I didn't have.


Yeah, they're really cheap with these tests.

My mother was having the same symptoms which are typical of corona, and when she wanted to get tested, her GP and other doctors all denied her and stalled for time. It was clear that they were instructed by some higher-up body to not test anyone who isnt either already hospitalized with all the symptoms, or was in contact with a confirmed case. Her oncologist then called the other doctors and told them that she needs to get her treatment the next week in his medical office, and that he must therefore really know whether she's positive or not. Only then was she able to get tested. *sigh* It was negative, but since the test took place almost 5 weeks after she started getting symptoms and 2 weeks after her symptoms had disappeared, this doesnt really rule out that she had corona - it just proves that she was no longer having it at the time of the test. :rolleyes: Fuck those clowns.

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Apr 20 2020 12:32pm
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i am glad that you're waking up to the fact that your healthcare system is a massive and cynical moneymaking scheme (just a shame you don't support anyone who would do something to change that), but in terms of corona, the main issue is the unavailability of reliable tests.


The lefts fix on this issue is to have everyone healthcare covered by the taxpayer. That doesn't actually address the costs issues. I would be much more open to some form of socialized healthcare but not just writing them blank checks today with the later generations picking up the tab. Somehow make the industry non for profit, then we should try to get as many people as possible insured, otherwise you're just increasing the healthcare profiteers market share.
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Apr 20 2020 12:53pm
Quote (fender @ Apr 20 2020 04:26am)
by now i can already tell how ridiculous / bad trump's behaviour was by seeing you scramble to get ahead of the pard cycle and spin a certain narrative...

hack.


What was "ridiculous / bad" about Trump's behavior in that clip? Please stick to the topic and answer as succinctly as you can.
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